Since gaijin dont want to hear their players and russian mains get mad when we say that russia needs a rework in their entire tech tree i made this post about performance of some chinese and russian mbts

I need to say that its not the first that russian mains are getting in my nerves every update since 2020 im saying br’s being destroyed because of Russian mains and chinese mains.

To start i should talk about how Russia performe in today warthunder i gonna start with 6.0 br and around to the 10.0 br and say things that i know im not the only one ho thinks the same as me.

6.0 to 7.7 br urss

This is the most classic br for the end era of ww2 tanks and cold war russian tanks this is not soo hard to deal with Russia tanks its a pretty solid br with tanks that are not soo broken comp to higher tier russia but some of them cause problem by existing in that br and out perform tanks in every other nation like the IS-2 that is a 6.7 tank with a 122mm cannon that have a crazy post damage and pen is a solid tank for 6.7 , but in other hand we have the t44 the best 6.7 tank urss has to offer, it dont come with a strong cannon but has armor that can stop most of the best cannon’s in his br bracket and having a decent pen of max 162mm with the (BR-367) that is great for 6.7 but still very bad deal with in some cases but only good armor it has is in the chassi, the turret in other hand way weaker and cam be ez pen by most tanks making a good pick for starters in the Russian tech tree, but very hard to deal with.

7.0 and above

In this tier Russia start to introduce super heavy tanks with strong armor for it br that sustein shots froom multiple tanks and survive the first one’s in this list i wanna talk about is the IS-3, IS-4M, and the IS-6.
These tanks urss most famous heavy tanks and 2 of them share the same cannon with differences in arnor the IS-3 and IS-4M are tanks in the 7.3 br and 7.7 they have the same cannon the russian D-25T a 122mm cannon that has around 25s to 20s of reload time and highest post damage in their br bracket with than 200mm’s of pen but their is something that is strange about this cannon that cam prove to be unrealistic, their pen is higher than it should be real test made the Americans show the 122mm cannon not passing more than 150mm of armor pen wat sounds strange when we see for a high mm Cannon and some test made by the germans in ww2 showed that the cannon wasn’t even able to pen a panther tank in far range up to 800meters and in some times even in point blank.

8.0 to 10.0 russia and china

This is the br that things start to apear about the the first russian mbts and chinese ones this also the br when start getting in the nerves of everyone all because of some tanks in this br that should have wat have in a soo low br our they need a new br higher than they are.

China and Urss mbts

This br is almost the same for these 2 nations they have almost the same tanks with some differences but their is some tanks that shpuld be explained why they are in that br, first i need to about the t55a that is not even a good tank about armor but he has something other 8.3 mbts dont have, he has a 100mm apfsds with more than 330mm’s of pen that cam kill anything in his br because nato based mbts have almost no armor atleast the t55 shares the chassi as the t54 but with less armor so its not hard to kill and since its high used by russian mains it need a uptier 8.7 br just to make they be more close to nato tanks for balance if we look at israel they apfsds in 8.7 tanks and they are very good tanks for 8.7 same with the american M60 RISE (P) and all of them including the t55a dont have a lazer range finder soo there is a balance over them.

Now i wanna talk about china, and their t55s of 8.0 yes i said 8.0 not 8.7, 8.0 of China has 2 t55s with apds and apfsds for 8.0 tank with estab and one of them with lazer range finder and they the complete same as the russian t55 also their armor is the same so tell gaijin wats the reason for them to not be at 8.3 our 8.7.

Now we have the ztz59D1for china in 8.3 with same armor as a t55 but this one has era and a 105mm cannon that make this tank better than his 9.0 successor they are the same tank but the 9.0 one has one single difference he has a composite armor on his front but the turret armor is weaker than lower br tank and he lost the era in the turret wat the 9.0 one weaker than the 8.3 one and also about them they have the same gun same rounds and reload speed so there is no reason to say the 8.3 one should not be at a higher br.

Now i wanna talk not only about how 9.0 br in russia is broken after the bmpt spam, gaijin needs to explain why give a buff to low br mbts that already have the best stats in thier br for no reason t64 and t72 is the ones im talking about wat the reason for a 9.3 tank to have 6.0 secs autoloader, you cam blame his armor being weak but wat is not weak is his 125mm cannon with a apfsds with more than 400mm of pen while leopard 1 has a 105mm that almost dont pen anything in the 9.0 br.

And now the t72 the strongest 9.3 tank that should be in 9.7 just to russian mains stop using this and get down tier to 8.3 and kill half of the enemy team after 6mins of match.

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nah

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Stopped reading at the IS-2 part.
0/10 ragebait.

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I would be amazed if there wasn’t a thread complaining about Russia/USSR every hour.

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Only two words to say, skill issue

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The strongest 9.3 tanks are ZTZ-96, Leopard 1A5, XM-1, etc.
T-72A is not the strongest, it’s average for the BR.

ZTZ-96’s equal is the T-64B which is currently 10.0.

ZTZ59D1 is the best 8.3 in the game firing the best round while having a laser range finder.
The ZTZ88s are better due to superior turret traverse and slightly better mobility.

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IS-2 is buns at it BR icl

The T26e5 is better than the IS2

anything is

Yeah and almost every nation have good vehicles that can deal with all the vehicles he listed

If you were complaing from 9.7 and above that makes sense because of bmpt but at the end of the day it is just another Russian tank you can kill like all other ones, but kh38 are really good compared to mavericks

Talking about the 122mm cannon if you read the post

Not talking about the is2 im talking about the D-25T 122mm cannon and using the is2 as an example

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Cannons don’t have BRs, vehicles do.

kv122 is pure bais at 5.3

Said the Z kiddo lmao

i mean hes russian so i dont know what do you expect. ( he play all nation i think )

its like someone milking the shit out of the f15EX with their 104 kill against mig21 while blasting macarena and you would 100% know hes a us main

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Ah, I got baited, my bad