Siam-Thailand Lineups For Japanese Tech Tree

Submarines are another interesting piece of equipment coming into the game. Because it has the ability to hide and conceal. and destroys the enemy well But in exchange, you have to protect yourself from Sub chasers and other ships that are ready to chase you. So you can write your suggestions related to submarines whether I-19, I-400 or other submarines in the Naval suggestions category at this link.

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HTMS Matchanu from Royal Thai Navy

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Thank you very much for your answer, I’ll get to work :D

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I-400 has been dispatched

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Wrong thread ? And yea, we don’t accept invidual submarine suggestions until they are part of the base game. ^^°



Thai F-16A Block 15 OCU with full bomb load and four AIM-9L/M

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Too bad you didn’t write earlier :(

3 Houses, Only One. RTAF answer to SU-30MK, F-16C/D, and JAS-39 C/D Question


Excerpt from Royal Thai Airforce White Paper, 2550 BE (2007)

Procuring something on a governmental level has always been difficult, procuring something with the million-dollar price tag on a governmental level, however, is even more difficult. Before the acquisition of JAS-39 Gripen C/D, the Royal Thai Airforce conducted several studies to make sure that the targeted airframes and planes were worthy of Thai people’s hard-earned money and taxes. During the research, the Royal Thai Airforce was presented with 3 candidates for the F-5s replacement: F-16C/D, SU-30MK, and JAS-39 C/D Gripen.

According to Royal Thai Airforce White paper published in 2007, under the question “Why JAS-39 C/D and not F-16 C/D or SU-30MK?”, Royal Thai Airforce answered this question in an interesting manner.

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Cover of the White Paper

  • On SU-30MK
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According to the white paper, the SU-30MK was considered a heavy fighter aircraft, with heavy payloads and intercontinental strike capability. As a result, it was also considered a highly visible aircraft via the radar system. Moreover, due to its size and capability, to accommodate SU-30MK, the Royal Thai Airforce would have to procure and redesign the logistic and infrastructure systems such as hangars to suit SU-30MK’s needs. The usage of SU-30MK would also require detailed and frequent inspections as well as high fuel consumption for and after each flight. This, coupled with the low shelf-life for the weapon, makes the Life Cycle Cost for SU90-MK for the Royal Thai Airforce quite expensive, higher than the other 2 competitors.

  • On F-16 C/D
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F-16 C/D was considered a medium Fighter aircraft with both ground and air capability. Due to the previous procurement and usage of F-16 A/B by the Royal Thai Airforce, the overall infrastructure and logistical systems were considered inexpensive compared to the SU-30MK. However, due to export restrictions and live service payments, as well as restrictions on the technology transfer, the procurement of F-16 C/D may only result in the acquisition of the airframes with limited capabilities.

  • On JAS-39 C/D Gripen
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    Considered an equal to other 4.5-gen fighters, Gripen was seen as an alternative to other 4.5-gen fighters with NATO weapons and capabilities. Due to this similarity, many of the existing infrastructures for NATO planes, such as the F-16, were considered capable of serving and accommodating JAS-39 C/D. Moreover, unlike in the case of F-16 C/D, the Gripen deal would also include Technology transfer, logistical and infrastructural training and assistance, as well as a Command-and-Control system.

As a result, JAS-39 C/D was considered as the answer to Royal Thai Airforce’s F-5s replacement question, with not only just the planes and their weapons, but also the technological transfer and other trainings as well.

What do you think? If you were in the RTAF staff’s shoes, would you consider other alternatives? What do you think of Thai SU-30MK?

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Honestly the decision for the Grippen makes since from an Economical point of view, especially when you consider it’s still an amazing light fighter with multi role capabilities, and while the Su-30 is a good heavy fighter, it would be a non-NATO system in a military that is mostly using NATO/Western tech, and so would add unnecessary strain to the logistics for the air force in my opinion

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I am a simple men; Rafale :D

(also since Indonesia ordered Rafale’s)

Mid tbh, the newly offered F-16V and F-15EX are much better options (while F-15 would probly also require new hangers…), KF-21 is also an alternative to the declined F-35, but thats a different story.

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Today in the year 2562 BE (2019 CE), 5 years ago, under the National Defense Technology act of 2562, Defence Technology Institute was founded. To this day, DTI has helped starting up, researching, and developing several types of weapons and weapon systems, ranging from firearms to Armored vehicles, with CS/AH2 105mm Howitzer being the latest developed prototype.


CS/AH2 Howitzer

Happy 5th Anniversary, DTI!

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Buddha year?

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for me, it will be one big problem in Sim NATO vs USSR and China so coping vt-4 will be a problem I know there are a lot of t-72 and low tanks but it’s wrong and should stop

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Sim should just limit lineups past just BRs

It’s already fixed selection of vehicles, it shouldn’t be hard to regulate them better. This is not just for subtrees, but for other east/west situations like FRG/GDR and PRC/ROC already in game.

Though considering the world as a whole, a more mixed technology conflict, while not necessarily with the nations represented in game, is anything but unrealistic. Nations buy from various differing sources, and often change their suppliers too. Germany for example continued using some eastern tech after the unification, while many other countries just procure both. The world isn’t nearly as predictable as most video games.

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BE, or Buddhist Era, aka: Buddhist year. It’s an official calendar in Thailand; Most official documents use BE in Thailand. The conversion is quite easy: BE = CE + 543.

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Thanks! I saw some Buddhist Era times on temples in China and on my travel in Thailand, but i haven’t thought they use it in official documents

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All the copy-pastes before are ok but VT-4 makes differense so big it will make sim unplayable?

You almost did not understand what I said, perhaps because of a mistake on my part. I say that the topic for copying and pasting is a mistake, whether before this or what comes after this.

It is a mistake that will keep happen no matter what and make exception for a single vehicle is even more stupid

Understand me, my friend, what I am saying is that the mistake remains a mistake that must be stopped and resolved, especially in simulation mode, and not that what comes before is good and that this is special. No, I actually benefit from it being added, but for the benefit of the game as a whole, I say that this is a mistake.

It will never be stopped. At least not the way you want.
With that much love for copy-pastes from gaijin our best and highly likely only solution is to ask for removal of copy-paste specifically from SIM lineups. While still getting them for arcade and “realistic”(lol) battles

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I completely agree with you on this