Siam-Thailand Lineups For Japanese Tech Tree

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

“NEKO THUNDER PROJECT”

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The Blue Water Tech Tree

RANK I

HTMS Sua Thayachon and HTMS Sua Kamronsin

as a result of the acquisition of warships which Prince Abhakara Kiartivongse, Prince of Chumphon , Chief of Staff of the Royal Thai Navy made an offering Paribatra Sukhumbandhu, Prince of Nakhon Sawan Commander of the Navy in the year 1905, but there was a problem with the budget. It is not possible to order all the ships that want. At first procurement was only one torpedo destroyer “Sua Tayanchon” and 4 fast torpedo boats, and after 5 years, a torpedo destroyer was ordered. “Sua Khamronsin” adds one more ship, both of which are the patrol and capturing captive ships. When Thailand declared war on Austria-Hungary and Germany during World War I and both ships were retired in 1937 to receive new warships to serve instead.

General characteristics (HTMS Sua Thayachon)
Type : Torpedo destroyer
Displacement : 385 ton
Length : 71.32 m
Beam : 6.55 m
Draught : 1.82 m
Propulsion : 2 x four-cylinder machines, 6,250 hp , 3 tube radiators, twin propellers
Speed : 28 knots
Crew : 67
Armament
Gun : 1 x 76/40 3rd Year Type naval gun , 5 x 57 mm/40 Hotchkiss Gun
Torpedo : 4 x Type 45B Torpedo (2 × 2) (45cm Torpedo , 90 kg Powder , 23 knots for 3000m)

General characteristics (HTMS Sua Kamronsin)
Type : Torpedo destroyer
Displacement : 375 ton
Length : 75.66 m
Beam : 7.15 m
Draught : 2 m
Propulsion : 2 x steam turbines (Curtis) 6000 hp
Speed : 29 knots
Crew : 73
Armament
Gun : 1 x 76/40 3rd Year Type naval gun , 5 x 57 mm/40 Hotchkiss Gun
Torpedo : 4 x Type 45B Torpedo (2 × 2) (45cm Torpedo , 90 kg Powder , 23 knots for 3000m)

RANK II

HTMS Phra Ruang

HTMS Phra Ruang is a warship obtained from solicitation from government officials and people. including royal grants from King Rama VI and Her Majesty Queen Saovabha Phongsri The Queen Mother until being able to purchase a destroyer By entrusting Prince Abhakara Kiartivongse, Prince of Chumphon to act as the purchaser of the ship. and recruited HMS Radiant and agreed to buy and enter service in 1920 and bring the ship back by himself Served until 1959, it was retired. a total of 39 years

General characteristics
Type : Destroyer
Displacement : 1,046 ton
Length : 83.57 m
Beam : 8.34 m
Draught : 4 m
Propulsion : 2 × geared Brown Curtis steam turbines, with 3 boilers 27,000 hp
Speed : 36 knots
Crew : 82
Armament
Gun : 3 × QF 4-inch (101.6 mm) Mark IV guns, mounting P Mk. IX , 1 × 76.2 mm (3.00 in) gun , 1 × 2-pounder (40-mm) “pom-pom” Mk. II anti-aircraft gun
Torpedo : 4 x Type 53A Torpedo (2 × 2) (53cm Torpedo , 136 kg TNT , 45 knots for 4,000 m and 29 knots for 9,100 m)

RANK III

HTMS Taksin

In 1935, the Ministry of Defense enacted the Naval Power Improvement Act of 1935 to improve Thailand’s naval power. It procured a large number of warships and equipment for official use, one of which was the HTMS Taksin and HTMS Naraesuan light cruiser, which was ordered from Italy, but both remained in service in Italy during World War 2 due to the crisis during World War II. II used the name Vesuvius and etna before it was destroyed in 1943 and after World War II, Italy compensated Thailand.

General characteristics
Type : Light Cruiser
Displacement : 1,046 ton
Length : 153.80 m
Beam : 14.47 m
Draught : 5.95 m
Propulsion : 2 shaft geared turbines 3 boilers 40,000 hp
Speed : 28 knots
Crew : 580
Armament
Gun : 6 × Bofors 152/53 (3 x 2) gun , 6 × Bofors 75/51mm gun , 8 x Breda Model 1931 machine gun (3 x 2 and 1 x 1)
Torpedo : 6 x Type 45F Torpedo (3 × 2) (45cm Torpedo , 200 kg TNT , 32 knots for 9,144yd and 36 knots for 6,401yd)
Plane: 1 × Floatplane CANT Z.501 Gabbiano (Not sure, maybe a Japanese seaplane if it’s in service)

[Sodium_chloride]

Is there a possibility that the Royal Thai Navy might not use the Breda antiaircraft guns, but rather the more widely used Madsen 20mm antiaircraft guns in the Royal Thai Navy at the time? If this ship is in service

[Fireraid233]

@Nikolai_Kachorn

NEKO THUNDER PROJECT

Have you thought on turning this into a suggestion? overall they all look good.

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

“NEKO THUNDER PROJECT”

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The Helicopter Tech Tree

Rank V

Bell UH-1H Huey

1968 The Royal Thai Army and Royal Thai Air Force received UH-1H Huey helicopters from the United States under the Military Assistance Program. (Later, the Thai Navy received this helicopter. The Thai police received Bell 204/205 in 1963 and 1969 respectively), which were used to suppress communist terrorists in Thailand in every battlefield. using both the attack version and the transport version It is also used in search and rescue missions both during combat and during natural disasters in Thailand. All of them will be retired in 2021.

General characteristics
Crew: 2-4
Length: 17.618 m
Width: 2.908 m
Height: 4.407 m
Empty weight: 2,363 kg
Gross weight: 4,100 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft, 1,400 hp)
Main rotor diameter: 14.63 m
Main rotor area: 168.114 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 204 km/h
Cruise speed: 204 km/h
Range: 511 km
Service ceiling: 3,800 m
Rate of climb: 8.1 m/s

Armament
Guns: 2 x swivel-mounted M60D , M134
Rocket: 14 x Mk 40 FFAR Rocket

Bell UH-1H Huey with Mk81

In 1977, during the war with communist terrorists. The Royal Thai Air Force came up with the idea to increase the attack potential of the Uh-1H, so there were several trials. Including the installation of 20 lb bombs, the installation of the M3 machine gun to replace the M60D machine gun and the experimental installation of 4 Mk 81 250 lb bombs used in the battle in the north. Low bombing accuracy, as well as slow and noisy helicopters. therefore being easily attack by communist terrorists.

General characteristics
Crew: 2-4
Length: 17.618 m
Width: 2.908 m
Height: 4.407 m
Empty weight: 2,363 kg
Gross weight: 4,100 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming T53-L-13 turboshaft, 1,400 hp)
Main rotor diameter: 14.63 m
Main rotor area: 168.114 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 204 km/h
Cruise speed: 204 km/h
Range: 511 km
Service ceiling: 3,800 m
Rate of climb: 8.1 m/s

Armament
Guns: 2 x swivel-mounted M60D
Rocket: 4 x Mk.81 bomb

Bell 212 Twin Huey

In 1973 - 1978, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Police Department ordered a large number of Bell 212 helicopters. It is used in tactical transport. search and rescue aviation use in attacks and being a royal aircraft with all of them being used until now, it has been modified to be armed for use in attack as well.

General characteristics
Crew: 2-4
Length: 17.58 m
Width: 2.908 m
Height: 4.39 m
Empty weight: 2,962 kg
Gross weight: 4,763 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6T-3 or -3B coupled turboshaft engine, 1,800 hp
Main rotor diameter: 14.63 m
Main rotor area: 168.0 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 209 km/h
Cruise speed: 201 km/h
Range: 439 km
Service ceiling: 5,300 m
Rate of climb: 8.86 m/s

Armament
Guns: 2 x swivel-mounted M60D
Rocket: 38 x Hydra Rocket pod

Boeing AH -6i

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) of the U.S. Department of Defense has informed Congress that the U.S. government has approved the sale of eight AH-6i light attack and reconnaissance helicopters, along with weapons, parts and other support, to the Royal Thai Army. Approximately $400 million (12 billion baht) will be awarded to the Royal Thai Army through the Foreign Military Sales program in 2019 and to be handed over to the Royal Thai Army in 2024.

General characteristics
Crew: 1–2
Length: 9.94 m
Width: 1.402 m
Height: 2.48 m
Empty weight: 722 kg
Gross weight: 1,610 kg
Powerplant: 1 × One Allison 250-C30 turboshaft, 425 hp
Main rotor diameter: 8.352 m
Main rotor area: 54.61 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 282 km/h
Cruise speed: 250 km/h
Range: 430 km
Service ceiling: 5,700 m
Rate of climb: 10.5 m/s

Armament
Guns: 2× 12.7 mm (.50 cal) GAU-19; or 2× 7.62 mm (.30 cal) M134 Minigun
Rocket: 2× LAU-68D/A seven-tube rocket pods firing 2.75 in (70 mm) Hydra 70 rocket projectiles , Anti-tank guided missile: 2× AGM-114 Hellfire

Eurocopter AS550 C3 Fennec

The Royal Thai Army has been approved to purchase Eurocopter AS550 C3 Fennec light/multipurpose attack helicopter in 2011 and received in 2013, The AS550 C3 Fennec helicopter is a reconnaissance helicopter that can be armed. This will increase the capability of the Royal Thai Army in patrolling for news. and joint attacks with existing AH-1F helicopters.

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 10.93 m
Width: 243.4 m
Height: 3.34 m
Empty weight: 1,220 kg
Gross weight: 2,250 kg
Powerplant: 1 × Turbomeca Arriel 2B turboshaft, 847 hp
Main rotor diameter: 10.69 m
Main rotor area: 89.75 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 246 km/h
Cruise speed: 245 km/h
Range: 430 km
Service ceiling: 5,700 m
Rate of climb: 10.5 m/s

Armament
Guns: 20 mm Giat M621 cannon , Fabrique Nationale de Herstal twin 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm machine gun pods
Rocket: 7 x 70mm (2.75") Forges de Zeebrugge rocket launcher FZ220 or 12 x 68 mm Thales Brandt rockets , BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles

Rank VI

** Bell AH-1F Cobra**

The Royal Thai Army is currently in service with a total of 7 AH-1F helicopters, the first 4 of which were in service in 2016. B.E. 2534 (1991), with 1 machine lost in an accident in the year 2000 (2000) and procuring 4 more machines that were stationed in the United States Army (US Army) in the year 2012 (2012) HJ 1 AH-1F by providing a form of selling military equipment. Excess Defense Article (EDA) of the United States.

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 13.6m
Width: 0.99m
Height: 4.09m
Empty weight: 2,999kg
Gross weight: 4,545kg
Powerplant: 1 × gasturbine Turboshaft lycoming T-53l-703 1,800shp
Main rotor diameter: 13.4 m
Main rotor area: 141 m2

Performance
Maximum speed: 276 km/h
Cruise speed: 277 km/h
Range: 537 km
Service ceiling: 3,500 m
Rate of climb: 6.2 m/s

Armament
Guns: 20 mm M197 GATLING
Rocket: 38 x Hydra 70 Rocket in M261rocket pod , 8 x BGM-71 TOW

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

I also had an idea to turn it into a suggestion on this subject. but must let the owner of the post consider it again.

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

The concept is really good. may be in the tech tree or may be in premium

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[NiceNiti]

Bro, you don’t need me to consider or approve anything! This is a discussion topic, everything is an idea and suggestion!

Also, your works and suggested Tech trees are quite beautiful and well made. In my opinion, if they were to be implemented soon, I would begin grinding up my Japanese tech tree just to play them. (I also love the detail and history of each vehicle you presented, they are quite educational, and I’ve learnt quite a lot from them)

(Bonus, here’s a video of Royal Thai Army Type-95 Ha-Go Tank)

Royal Thai Army Type-95 Ha-Go Tank

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

Thanks for the compliment, so I’ll put this up on suggestion soon. If there is any advice, you can tell me right away.

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

For Rank 8…
F-5E/F 1987 Upgrade with Python 3

RTAF first upgraded all of its F-5E/F in 1987 by Israeli company. The upgrade include new radar, new HUD, new computer-control weapon system, LN-39 INS, AN/ALE-40 Chaff & Flare dispenser and Python-3 air to air missile

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

Let’s guess the picture. What is it? 😆😆😆

[NiceNiti]

Is it Type 76 SPAAG, its gun is quite unmistakable.

But if they are going to add this, does it mean that Gaijin also have to model Thai/Siamese crews too? Or will they use Japanese crews’ models. 😆

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

The answer is!!

Type 80 Anti Aircraft Machine Gun ( Vickers .5" Class D ) Imported into service in 1937 from England, initial number 24, entered service to replace the Type 77 Heavy Machine Gun (Vicker Machine Gun) in the 3rd company of 1st anti-aircraft battalion and 2st anti-aircraft battalion and lead Vicker Machine Gun move to Heavy machine gun Platoon in 1st company and 2st company of 1st anti-aircraft battalion and 2st anti-aircraft battalion. After World War II it was mounted on the M3 Half Track and was used until around 1967, with the M42 Duster and M55 Quadmount being replaced.

Type 80 Heavy Machine Gun ( Vickers .5" Class D )

Type 77 Heavy Machine Gun ( Vickers Machine Gun )

@NiceNiti

But if they are going to add this, does it mean that Gaijin also have to model Thai/Siamese crews too? Or will they use Japanese crews’ models. 😆

I don’t mind using a Japanese crew. But if getting a Thai tank crew like in the picture or thai crew wearing the Adrian M31 helmet would be good, not less. 😆😆

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[Nikolai_Kachorn]

Today we are going to look at the differences between the Army and Police T17E1 Staghound. What differences do you see? Let’s start.

[Colerend]

One has a Breda and the other has a Madsen?

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

As for the difference between an Army Staghound and a Police Staghound, of course the right one is “Weapons”.

Royal Thai Army : Mounted a 20 mm AA Machine Cannon M/38 gun.

Royal Thai Police : Mounted a 20 mm Type 97 automatic cannon gun.

[CubicSquare]

If I may, this TT option is missing one of the most important systems Thailand operates. If Japan is ever to get a Thai subtree in any form, it ought to have their RBS 70 launch platform, to give Japan some kind of SAM.

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

Normally, the RBS-70 of the Royal Thai Air Force is a ground-based version, by taking the RBS-70 up and down on the vehicle. hypothetical that the firing point to the ground cannot be fired therefore use the roof of the car It’s a place to shoot instead.

For SAM type weapons, I would recommend other vehicle mount models such as the Startreak on Type 51 utility vehicle and Igla-S on Thairung TR Transformer 4x4.

@NiceNiti

Starstreak air defence missile on Type 51 utility vehicle

@NiceNiti

Dzhigit launcher with two Igla-S on Thairung Transformer 4x4 short-range air-defence system

[Thug Shaker Actual]

An actual solution that is NOT the Korean tree

[GildyMenn21]

Actually, i have already tried to explain why Thailand would make more sense then South Korea but some players/people are to stubborn unfortunately.

Japan could also receive Indonesia and Malaysia as it exported/donated arms to them but that of course depends if other are okay with it.

[Nikolai_Kachorn]

While waiting for the Ship Tree Poll, let’s guess what ship this is. Whoever answers correctly gets 1 heart. 😂 😂