since bumping the r3 to 6.0 i do not see it very often nor do i use it much anymore as i feel it is not effective or fun to use anymore and i dont want this thing to sit at a Fox or xm800 br rating.
i just want it to have either apds or spotting and maybe a bump up to 6.3 if giving either. the AMX-10P is the closes comparison i can make to the R3 at this br range it both has apds and spotting. I find the vehicle very effective at where it sits.
I do not see why the r3 cant have one of these features. Simply because it has insane speed on flat terrain and a low speed stabilizer?
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It was moved up because it was a little speedy rat that could shred tanks from the side.
Giving it the ability to easily do that again (adding apds) will cause it to go to 6.7 at least.
Spotting might not affect it too much though.
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i rather just have the spotting too i was just saying apds as a potential option to discuss
Better give it modern stab, spotting and apds and make it 9.0
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I feel you man, as a (now former) fox player no light vehicle that showed itself ideal at a BR (like the R3 at its old BR or fox at 7.7) will not be worth touching ever again until it gets lowered back to where its meant to be. at least the R3 didn’t have its traverse gimped by a bogus bug report and then shoved into 8.0, full stabilised superior light tank area.
Dont give gaijin any ideas in how to make it worse but upping its BR
gaijin also calls it an SPAA so a APDS belt would screw with that, meanwhile the russian SPAA the 2s38 gets APFSDS. us minor nation enjoyers wont ever have it good unless there’s a mistake made
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The Fox at BR 7.7 is still good, but no longer OP… While the R3 T 20 is almost practically useless it is only used against planes, but this tank was born as a light reconnaissance vehicle not as SPAA, so they should put it as a light vehicle is give it the ability to do reconnaissance, at least then you can exploit the speed to help the team in doing reconnaissance, and leave it at BR 6.0 .
Italy, however, is much worse off than England, another example is the R3 T106 FA which is a similar vehicle to the Fox, but the Fox is at a lower BR. R3 T106 FA must be moved to the same BR as the Fox 7.7BR
its at 8.0 now. its in the light tank equivalent in over BR to obsolescence.
you’re guaranteed to see fully stabilised MBTs and lights that you cant handle all the time due to the 8.7-8.7 power BR rendering it worthless other than to baserush like a hellcat does.
R3 should be 5.3 to face aircraft it can actually deal with, fox 7.7 because any lower and the germand and a certain russia main cries
If the R3 gets spotting i want my U-sh 204gk to also get spotting they are both smol fast cars with a 20mm
I didn’t know that, I had stayed that Fox was at BR 7.7… …I took a break from playing because of the blatant Russian bias in this game, as 2S38 is still at BR 10.3 when it should be at BR 11.3 same for BI which is 6.7 but should be at BR 8.0 (This Russian plane is blatantly OP)
However, I confirm that the Fox should return to BR 7.7.
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Ive moved down to 6.7 so then the only russian bias I have to deal with is the obscene amounts of OP SPAA, Yak 9s and undertiered 7.7 heavies.
Fox was the only reason I even bothered higher up as it rewarded being a good player. it doesn’t anymore
if it sits at 9.0 then it needs a irst tracker too
the game turns into a boat simulator when playing the r3 t105
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i have no clue why the T106 thing is 8.0, its gun is about as much worth as the super sherman at 6.0. probs should be 7.3
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it was probably moved up because the of-40 was moved up at the same time with all the other early nato MBTs.
that was the reason stopped playing high tier italy
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shame such fun vehicles get moved so high they are valueless outside of rare scenarios where you’re the better player by a huge amount.
One day we will have fun vehicles again
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Instead, I’m afraid it’s because of developer laziness… In my opinion, it was moved because as always the developers are too lazy in adding new vehicles for minor nations, and there are Italian vehicles that have been suggested in this forum, that can fill that gap, but are still ignored.
So to avoid creating new vehicles in italy that will fill that specific hole in that BR, there is the fashion of raising the BR of old vehicles, so I don’t even have to design the 3d model of a new vehicle for italy, and I can totally concentrate on giving a new Russian vehicle.
too low, it’s an italian vehicle…bump it to 12.0
Two things:
According to Gaijin it has historically accurate Stab. So that won’t change.
With the Leopard 40/70 the R3 is sort of redundant at 6.0. I say give the R3 APDS and make it 7.3/7.7 like the Wiesel 1A4 (which would be it’s most direct comparison).
We would then have a progression of Leopard 40/70 – ZSU 57-2 – R3 T20.
@Smin1080p_WT Can we get any sort of feedback on this issue? The R3’s success has really made it an odd duck and making it a Wiesel 1A4 clone seems like a better use of the platform at this point.