F4s out of position is less likely to lock and sling than an eh kai its radar scope is not only smaller but weaker.
Now we are off topic man
HMD for F-4J/S is borderline useless due to fact that it has no missiles that can take advatage of it
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Exactly my point, hell on the F4J it struggles to even get a lock the ACM mode is more reliable xD
EJ KAI also has the longer nose and nose mounted gun
I find is useless on F-4S (and i imagine its not gonna be much different on F-4J) due to fact that
- its IRs are rear-aspect only + have low peak G pull; these need to be lead as much as possible and as such theres no feasible scenario where HMS would make any significant difference to hitting the target
- sparrows are not gonna hit anyway in any scenario where they are launched at close range because the target will sooner break the lock before the missile can intercept it
Not to mention that if you find yourself in situation where you need to use HMS on Phantom in dogfight you already made several mistakes beforehand to end up in such situation anyway.
At long ranges any plane that does not have HMS will simply be able to lock the target in standard ACM mode anyway.
Only scenario where HMS on Phantom is advantage is when its long range shot against group of enemies and you want to lock specific one.
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Aim9H in the f4s are actually pretty decent tbh man but yeah the situation does change at all they need to be led same as almosy IR missiles.
Exactly and situations where you can HMD you still have to point the plane at the general direction of the enemy to get a solid solution.
Cant off bore it, plus the aim7F on the ej kai actually can be fired in a better crank position due to the radar scope being wider.
Dont get me wrong i like them, but i know that they dont get any use out of HMS.
Yep, agree.
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Decent doesnt mean they are great, theyre not suddenly gonna pull like R73s or that off the rails, theyre still worse aim9Ls on a paltform at 12.0
Mirage F.1C without Magic 2 at the same Br as MiG-23MLD should be reasonable for testing or at least consideration.
Perhaps at the same Br as F-4E if Super 530F are also removed.
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Just remove its missiles all together!
Make it 10.3
We have it’s engine on a 9.7 airframe so why not 10.0?
Lets just leave it as is, arguably one of the best 12.0 premiums
But you don’t understand, it takes a modicum of thought to use it and they paid for it, so heaven forbid that be a requirement.
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I thought we are talking about F.1C.
F.1CT and F.1C-200 should remain as they are.
If F.1C was had it’s weaponry and Br reworked we would have some more variety as well.
The f1c as in the 12.0?
It too should remain where it is
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For those interested, I’m currently preparing a suggestion for an early Mirage F1. It would solve the problem if it were added, it would bring a Mirage F1 without Magic 2 and with only R530s, it would fill the gap between the Mirage III and the current Mirage F1.
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Better alternative than taking a hatchet to what’s already present.
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I would like to see that one at a different Br.
Not only having to focus on the way I use it’s missiles and concentrate on “actually” playing with that aircraft, If that makes any sense to you, would be nice.
The CT and C-200 would remain untouched creating a win-win situation.
The F1C is identical to the F1C 200 you are aware of that no?
F1C-200 does differ slightly not as far as gameplay is concerned of course. CT is missing one cannon.
Why not have the C at a lower Br? It is the first variant to be produced anyway. Why do all 3 need to be in the exact same configuration?