Should the mirage F1C loose its magic 2 in order to go to 11.3

Well, I owe you an apology. I was mistaken about the similarity between the F1C and the F1C 200. They are actually the exact same aircraft (the boom can be mounted or removed, which causes the size difference). It is therefore normal to have the same armament on both aircraft.

Regarding missile operational durations, the Mirage F1C had Magic 1s for 10 years, then Magic 2s for the next 10 years before being retired from service. To say that it only had the Magic 2 for a small part of its service is therefore false.

For the aircraft you want, I would suggest an early Mirage F1C with Magic 1s and R530s. I will do a suggestion next week

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Hardly ive hundreds of games in it i know fine well ehat it can do

F.1 would get third partied as well.

In a sustained fight MiG-23 ought to win every time.

An early mirage is a good shout thoigh I not just stripping one down for the sake of it

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A sustained rate the mig23 MLD doesn’t win every time.

Especially seeing as it has worse sustained rate than an ML or M as it has slats to improve AOA so yeah

No applogy necessary.

F.1C is the first serial aircraft already isn’t it?

We can always blame compression or that the C-200 was made premium but we are not very likely to change that.

Pretty sure we’ve all suggested this muppet should put the energy behind an F1C (Early) instead of making uptiers for the 11.7 mirage essentially unplayable by removing all aspect AAMs.

Last I checked, a mirage F1 doesn’t have to manage wing sweep to keep up with a Mig 23.

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Could you not tell the apology was dripping with almost as much sarcasm as venom for you being an absolute muppet who is generally ignorant of the platform you’re discussing?

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Ought to check again.

F1C an F1 200 are literally identical bar a fuel prob , hed know this if he spent 3 seconds on google rather than arguing over nothing

Mate really outed himself here.

TIL mirage f1c has variable geometry wings.

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The F1C we have is not exactly the first production series but an improved variant, the original F1C is not equipped with countermeasures or RWR, these were quickly installed and retrofitted on the first aircraft

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Your seem to be ignorant of the whole Br bracket.

Factual statement

All mirage f1 are fixed wing air craft

No wing sweep management needef.

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Just enough AOA to pull in for the shot more easily still enough rate to stay ahead of F.1.

In a sustained fight MLD will get nose on.
If you extend you likely get clapped or have to run to the airfield and leave the.match assuming it’s a 1v1.

Nice shitpost.

You literally stated this

that means you are saying the mirage f1 has to.manage wing sweep

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Hardly.
In an ARB match the mirage will beat an MLD relatively easily

With the caveat that if the MLD puts 90% of their focus on wing sweep, it could edge out a win but that’s a lot of effort. Still not remotely guaranteed, however. But it also is the Mig 23 most reasonably rated at 12.0 if it weren’t for a few of the things above 12.0

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Negative.

Unless you start in the dominant position or with a superior enrgy state.