Should the Coelian (Flakpanzer 341) be brought back?

What are you even on about? There was a question asking, and I answered “no,” don’t know what made up forum rules you think that violates.

This topic has been discussed to death since the vehicles were rightly removed, which is why there’s no need for a more in-depth answer, but I’m all for the removal of all fake vehicles in the game.

cool, cool. so you wouldn’t mind if we removed your fake vehicles currently in your possession that you may or may not have?

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Not at all, just refund any GE or SL I may have spent on them.

you see, that’s the problem. Refunding RP is difficult, as the game doesn’t allow you to close a screen without spending RP.

Based on how the game is coded, if you have all German vehicles unlocked, you will get soft locked out of the game. So, unless they just want to give convertible rp (which will piss EVERYONE off), they would have to recode this part of the game.

And even if they can refund the rp, it’s hard to use. Why is that? Due to another quirk of this game not allowing efficient research progress for a vehicles +2 or -2 ranks from your tank, they couldn’t just let you spend that to on anything. It would have to be with the rank of the lineup you unlocked it with because Gaijin doesn’t want you having any amount of fun. But, the game doesn’t know match data from 4 years ago, therefore, an rp refund is nearly impossible.

This is just how I see it though, so if a person who has a lot more experience with game development or any sort would double check my reasoning or prove me wrong, that’s be great.

Oh right, it was Kugel that replaced it.
Flak 341 had its AP corrected, and I guess it went from 7.0 to 6.3 over time and I never thought to check.

Because removing the vehicles won’t free up space, and the backlash from deleting vehicles isn’t worth it.
But yeah, they’re rare cause they’re bad. Panther 2 is the only really interesting one cause no other medium tank exists at 6.7, but the Tiger 105 is inferior to the 88s.
And as you said, Kugel is superior to 341.
IDK tho, I haven’t used a SPAA for WW2 era BRs in over a year. Just fighters.

Kugel from what i’ve heard is completely bonkers. Super high velocity cannons and HVAP 30mm MK103 with 77mm of pen at close range.

Funny how people like to call the P341 inferior to the Kugel/Ostwinds but fail to understand that the 30mms it rock are no joke - Along with the fact that the 341 is very difficult to strafe due to the fact it’s a fully enclosed turret on a Panther chassis.

It’s not an inferior SPAAG in any sense of the word compared to other WW2 SPAAGs currently in game. It’s the most protected and among the most heavily armed. Wish I had grinded for it before it was removed, but that’s just my loss.

Hello

We currently do not have any plans to return the Flak 341, Tiger II 105 and Panther II. The reasons for their removal were outlined in detail at the time: [Development] Changes and optimization in the German tech-tree - News - War Thunder

These vehciles were removed and replaced with more appropriate vehciles alongside the Maus which was also removed (not for historical reasons).

We also acknowledged that there are other vehciles, such as the R2Y2 that were also added in a different period of time for the game when modern vehciles were not planned and these were considered the only options to balance those nations. As we have made clear, when suitable replacement vehciles can be found and created, we still have in mind to replace these vehciles (at least in current plans) also. It’s just a case of getting suitable candidates.

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