Well, most people include the lack of skill that got the F-16A moved down to begin with.
Not only that but F-20A is also Kurnass 2000 equivalent.
Obviously F-20A is better in a dogfight, but F-20A also lacks countermeasures and weapon mounts.
It can either bring the Kurnass 2000 loadout or the Mirage 2000 loadout but it’s 9Ls instead of Magic 2s.
F-16A has the flight performance, and a bit more countermeasures.
how less? they both would have 4 missiles and the r27r is overall similar while the r27t is better due to the smaller IFOV, not to mention the hmd…
That’s because of different launch profiles, if either is at max-G with a target barely in its gimble it will struggle. This happens more often to R-73s because that’s its typical launch profile.
If you launch both a 1.5km perfectly rear aspect the only difference is the Magic 2 will get there faster.
Most of those aircraft should go up in BR. The Mig-21 and Mig-23 series should not be the same BR as aircraft like the Kfir Canard, which has 2 rear-aspect missiles and no functional radar. The RWR is also insufficient to even pick up a R-24R.
You dodge an aircraft and become suppressed. You dodge an SPAA and you become suppressed. Both result in a high likelihood of you being shot down. If you’re sucking the ground, you have few options to dodge.
Even if you manage to dodge an SPAA missile on your attack run, what stops the second? You’ve bled your speed and they’re not likely to mess up again.
Not to mention that not every missile is a radar-guided one. Stingers from Ozelots or AD series and Strelas are still very dangerous and will catch you even out of line of sight while escaping from view.
Pantsir should not be nerfed, but its unfortunate how blatantly gaijin has and is ignoring every other nations top tier anti aircraft weapons.
Countering SAM systems in this game is laughably easy, killing them with GPS guided bombs is even easier.
For once Gaijin should focus on SAM systems and making them good rather than more and more CAS powercreep, especially with USSR.
Lack of skill may be one thing, but the Mig-29 at a similar BR has R-27ER missiles. The F-16A is stuck with a handful of Aim-9L missiles and those aren’t nearly comparable.
But it gains a radar missile, which is extremely valuable. IR missiles are incredibly easy to dodge.
I’m not suggesting the Kurnass is bad, but its BR seems unfair based on other aircraft at that BR. If anything, most other aircraft need to move up.
Btw I bought yesterday Su-34 so I have to expect mass murders of ground vehicles? :D
Israel is especially needing this treatment. Their best SPAA is either a Chapparal or a M163 with only four stingers.
Yes. It’s incredibly free to do lol
because it has 2 of them, and the aim 9L are just better than the r60m… not to mention the better flight performance of the f16, rwr and radar
Yea its pretty trash line, I have literally not researched a single AA vehicle in Israeli tree. I only really want the Machbet, but aint researching all that just for it.
Now that I am complaining, they should fix Merkava and Namer armour, its ludicrous how Namer is still at >64 tons yet armour is less than a light tanks.
They do not miss their target. It’s a free kill. I’d know since I love the damn things.
Sure, but what does it matter when the enemy doesn’t see them either way? The only way they’re ever going to hit anything is when it’s distracted.
Not from my experience. The Mig-29 reliably outturns the F-16 and outruns them. The Mig-29 is also getting a Cobra button lol
Radar on the F-16A is effectively pointless without radar missiles.
I have them all. The Machbet is nice, but I wish they’d give it the APDS it needs.
It’s modeled in-game, but only for a Japanese boat.
I have a lot of posts made for those already. Feel free to go and support them :)
Never managed outturn F-16 in MiG-29. Like also when I look on statshark graphs so you must be lucky or opponent made mistakes.
I’ve never been caught by an F-16 while running from my experience. Then again, maybe the German ones just have better engines, idk.
German one weight less compared to 9.13. And even 9.12 is still worse than F-16.
do you realize that the r27er can be notched?
it does matter specially if you target distracted enemies where the range of the missile is actually more important that anything else
it doesnt, it can just out run but the f16 specially the a has much better turn performance
well and it is a lower br thanks to that
No, don’t nerf the pantsir.
Make other nations equivalent. God knows gaijin isn’t alergic to copy-paste so do it that way if you have to.
What cannot continue is the intolerable dominance of air over ground. It’s insufferable and needs to change.
It’s quite frankly stupid and a complete failure of game design and management that it hasn’t been addressed in this long.
That’s the point, plenty of times you won’t even have to deal with AAs due to terrain limitations and nature of SACLOS missiles. KH slingers aren’t hard to deal with on their own.
Drop down to cover ?
Our maps aren’t a plate where you have unobstructed LoS to the edge of the map.
I don’t think Stingers and Strela have nearly enough range to challenge 12.7 air.
But their mode of operation is much better, as breaking LoS with AAs on the ground is easier than it is to do the same thing but with fast approaching missile.
One of the reasons why we need ARH AAs.