But worse avionics compared to 21bison and Mirage 2000.
I have to disagree there. I’ve played the Mig-23 and it is leagues better than the Mig-21 in performance. That’s why it sits higher in BR usually.
In most cases yes.
Judging by your hilariously small FoV, are you by any chance a R-73 that got the ability to talk ?
Our camera has pretty large FoV, so you aren’t blind to anything that moved slightly from their spawn.
For some things you don’t need any experience to observe the truth. Your plane has access to the ground map, it sees the pings/scouts and often times have really good zoom with thermals. Then you just need to lock and fire, with FnF nature of the missiles doing all other work.
This is the same thing as claiming that Ariete can be lolpen by the DM53, you don’t need any experience to claim that.
Just because you’re narrow minded doesn’t mean I’m lying, that’s a wild assumption.
You need to realize every engagement has two sides, in this case CAS vs AA. I’ve used plenty of AAs and do speak from experience of how easily a plane can defeat your missile by breaking LoS on our current maps.
If you’re personally attacking someone to disprove their claims, at least do it properly next time.
RWR does work for many angles and it takes you just a couple of seconds after you die to respawn in a plane, so having an eye on kill feed at all times isn’t something hard.
Because it can meet enemy air units ?
It might be a glitch in my game, but I regularly see non-RU planes up.
It’s definitely a brick when compared to other options it will frequently see.
You mean a plane that is getting carried hard by it’s KHs ?
Don’t confuse the MiG-21bis with the Bison.
K2k is a$$ rn
It shouldnt be 12.3 without radar missiles
F16a is far better on the same br also f4j with aim7 on 12.0 so wth?
“This under-BR’d jet is 12.3.”
Then move it to 12.7.
F-4J is inferior to Kurnass 2000 in every way. Worse RWR, worse countermeasures, worse missiles.
This discussion is pointless if you’re going to result to insults and claims like these when I make a valid criticism about what you’re saying.
What I think we should do is find better options for SPAAG to all nations. I am sure that there would be options.
Remember when you claimed you didn’t stalk me on this site?
No complaints were made. I was making a BR comparison.
That’s what Gaijin’s already working on.
Japan will be getting radar-assisted Type 81 this year as an example.
This isn’t you unless you’re claiming Joke is your alt account.
Worse cm and avionics sure but not worse missiles overall
In this br radar missiles is a must and avionics doesnt matter without radar missiles
Also 4j have hmd which is very nice
Sparrows are very useful and the Kurnass does not get any radar-guided missile.
This isn’t a complaint post either, I was just pointing out that a Mig-23 with R-73 would be a bit silly for 12.3
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You accused me of lying first.
I gave you a valid answer to your criticism, which you seemingly can’t accept.
You tried to make my claim about LoS irrelevant by using my CAS experience, without realizing I’ve been on the other side of the engagement plenty of times and seen it happening.
I also told you that you don’t need experience to observe some things, which is absolutely true.
Yes worse missiles.
On Kurnass 2000 I have 6 Python 3s, which have generous no-escape ranges against afterburning targets. AIM-9H + AIM-7F aren’t that. AIM-9L + AIM-7F is another story entirely.
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Sparrows would be useful, and would make Kurnass 2000 12.7, the BR EJ Kai should be.
I know you’re pointing out BRs thanks to your clarification.
Mirage 2000 have Magic II on BR 12.3 which are comparable.
I will not discuss the Mirage because I do not know enough about them to make statements on their BR placement or weapon systems. I primarily play Ground.
I have both so I can compare.
I can say for certain, however, that the Magic 2 is not comparable to the R-73.
Python 3 have the same flare ressitance and even less then 9l due to large seeker
Also while p3 is better 9l has more range so overall this shouldnt effect a br diffrance
Yes f4 against f15c with fox 3 very fair
Thst bcuz of missile count and its 12.7(the s4)
The s5 is 13.0