Open discussion.
I am really wondering what’s the point of having to face the best aircrafts available in the game without having any fox3 and even more : only 2 fox1 (even though they are really good).
Important note : we also agree that the problem come also from the matchmaking mechanic that put you against higher BRs most of the time. If they were as much uptiered than downtiered, it would be “more ok”.
(#skillissue)
the problem: the matchmaking system
ofc if we compare planes to the best ones they can face all of them will suffer
however if you go the other way around and Compare a MiG-29 to it’s 12.0 enemies then you may understand why it is put at 13.0
Sure ! BR decompression is also an important thing
but then the MiG-29 should stay at it’s current BR in the current system
the system needs to change not the BR of any one aircraft
Mig29 9.12a and 9.13 could probably go down to 12.3 without many issues if 27er was removed. if the fm stays gimped.
As always with this discussion, you can’t ignore the elephant in the room that is BR compression.
Yes, both MiG29A & MiG29G suffer immensely in full uptier. But equally, the things 1.0 BR beneath them suffer against them too.
Moving these planes down isn’t really fixing anything, it’s just passing the pain onto those 1.3 beneath their current BR. And perpetuating the domino effect of compression. You move MiG29G down 0.3 and 11.7s suffer. So you move those down 0.3 and now 10.3’s suffer. You move them down 0.3 now 9.0’s suffer etc etc.
I think the MiG29’s current BR’s are fair in the current state of compression, But ideally, everything would be spaced out much more. At a minimum, current 14.0’s should be 15.0. Then you could bump MiG29’s up to 13.3/13.7. They’d be better off than they are now, and moving them up creates space to decompress beneath them too.
Mig-29 9.12 is F-16A equivalent, which are themselves 12.7.
All of Mig-29 9.12/9.13 equivalent aircraft are 12.3 and 12.7.
They have a great flight model.
? No…
Mig-29G rocks regardless, and Mig-29 9.12 still has 2 radar missiles.
you’ve got to admit they’re not great at 14.0 until you go into a Ultra short range dogfight
if you can manage that the R-73s rule but at all other ranges the MiG-29G is kinda outclassed by everything
Even at 13.0 its outclassed by the su33.
Yes, but the Mig-29A is especially rough.
Facing equivalent/superior airframes with vastly better armaments is not very enjoyable. R-27ERs are the best SARH, but they’re still worse than the Aim-120s that almost all 13.0+ planes have. And you only get two, and then you need to rely on just 4 R-60Ms while facing 13.0+ planes.
And that’s ignoring the meh radar, RWR, energy retention, and it’s abysmal fuel usage.