Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

If you want to know more a J-20 discussion thread already exists.

I understand that some of you aren’t too familiar with Chinese 5th generation aviation, so I can answer some of your concerns in there.

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Same applies though, such as this might have influenced their decision to not go with R73 styled missile and use PL8B instead, they feel it is unnecessary to have this sort of manoeuvrability.

Yes.
The current battlefield situation is way too complicated for an actual dogfight, because if you enter one you are likely to be shot down by the opponent’s wingman anyway.

It is worthy to note that PL-10 is a high off-boresight missile with thrust vectoring, so in case that an enemy fighter is behind it can still hit it.

Fights will be fought in BVR, and if both enemy fighters survive BVR encounter they will simply retreat, the risk of losing good pilots and machinery will likely not make them merge into WVR.

Anyway, moving back to the thread topic.


J-15T

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An incredible plane and one that I hope to see in game one day.

48 is fine, just don’t bring chaff and don’t fly too high

WTF do u mean by

even if u fly low chaff is still voluntary cause F15s can ignore ur multipath if they are high enough.

J-15T is my new favorite Flanker.

Single-seat canard with low-vis paint, and modernized avionics + radar.


Switched to WS-10H (naval WS-10) engines as well.

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So from this it will be 8 * PL15 (if it can be mounted on air intake and between) + 2 * PL10 (it can’t be mounted on wing tip) + 2PL8B max?
Edit: nevermind, it can go on wing tip as seen from JF17 Block 3. So 4 PL10.

My favourite thing about Sino-flankers is that for the most part they ditched the hideous soviet cockpit paint, should make them a joy to fly in sim

It’s 8x PL-15 and 4x PL-10, so very good BVR capability if the rumors of it using J-11D AESA is true.

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PL-21 in the future or are the PLANAF not bothering with those?

I also like the newer Sino-Flankers visually for their NATO-style low-vis liveries.
Grey Flankers look incredible, such as J-16.
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PL-17/PL-21 is mainly for larger targets like AWACS. I’m not sure if they can work effectively against fighters.

Agreed, personally I was never a fan of soviet multi-colour camos since grey is the way for modern fighters

it just uses J-11D’s design for reference. the bevel fairing is said to be a stealth design, so it just means its design has some air superiority consideration

it can as long as it’s fast enough, like Fakour-90.

Even on my J-11 gameplay i found i never used cannons for A2A atonce
when you run out of R-73s usually you could just RTB or in a bad situation that cannon won’t help you
the only time i used them is for attacking howitzers for stock grinding…

IDK anything about them so … Also they are more like R37 competitor than Meteor and stuff, its diameter is like 300mm+

I had to use it once and once only against an F15E, we both had no missiles, bro brought only AMRAAM and lobbed it all on me missing all 8…

The main reason why I didn’t use cannon is because the old Flanker flight model was bad.
Now after the buff, I find more chances to use it. J-11s fly decently now.

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