Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

J-16D means EW(电,for 电子战)while J-11D is just a common varient
Considering there’s not SEAD/DEAD in game you wont want a E/A-18E for Air battles…

PL-17 is said to use both radar + IR seeker.
So you need to notch + flares to avoid it if that is the case.

Yes.
J-15T means Tanshe (弹射) which means catapult.

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i’m pretty looking forward to these modern F**ker-90s

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Apparently rumours about PL10 having some sort of radar seeker as well.

Yeah, which would be similar to the relationship between MICA IR and MICA EM.

Or maybe we could see the PL-11AE making its way to other aircraft


Here is what J-15 cockpit is supposed to look like apparently.
What the MFDs are displaying is likely photoshopped though.

it surely can. Modern aircraft and missiles can be easily matched. they are all digital, and just need some software update, you can use it.

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I mean they photo shop it in the first place to not let u see what are inside of them.

IDK, for PL12AE and PL11AE we only saw either of them like a month ago.

Yeah, it would not be revealed since it is still classified.

Likely in the next 2-4 years they’ll be making appearances on other aircraft

Yeah, but PL12A only appeared on a drone RN.

There should be no reason why existing aircraft can’t use it, to be fair.
It’s an PL-12 with a supposedly new seeker and new motor that allows it to have more range.

Unless it’s a special use case and only compatible with the drone’s radar or is some weird ARM there shouldn’t be huge hurdles there

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I don’t see the point of making it only available to select few aircraft.
After all, PLAAF and PLANAF have modernized older aircraft such as J-10A, J-11B etc. to have the ability to fire PL-10 and PL-15. There is no technical bottleneck.

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I don’t either, I suspect it’s already in service and nobody has picked it out from regular PL-12s yet

This is the likely scenario.
There were already rumors of PL-12A years ago.
PL-15 ended up catching more attention though, which is to be expected.

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Pulling this from the J-11B Block 2 suggestion, some general statistics of the J-11B.
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MTOW of 28000kg.
Second image documents the use of composite materials in areas such as the main wing, vertical stabilizer, horizontal stabilizer which accounts to 555 kilograms or 9% of the empty weight of the airframe. In addition, replacement of N001 radar, power supply, and cooling have also saved some weight.

In total, it is in the region of being 700-800kg lighter empty than Su-27SK.
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Light-green areas are where the composites are located.

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