Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

I do think it looks cool, although I’m biased towards the twin seater Flankers.

It’s just that why should I play it when I also have the Su-30SM2 that is just straight up better.

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pictures where enough for kh38 tho … j16 can carry 3, jh7a2 can carry 2, and j10c can carry 2 as well

Perhaps it is worth remembering that the only AESA radars with a more 70 degrees are the Grippen, EF-2000, Su-35 and Su-57 radars?

Cause the SM2 is always gonna be better

So should have the j-15T

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i think its so dumb how the standards for russian aircraft to get things added are just like, a picture, while nato and china has to like find a billion documents to get the same

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it would have been an upgrade if it’s a straight MKK clone

i could be wrong, but doesnt the j 16 have an empty weight of 17.7 tonnes?

not irl it can only carry pl10 same for J15T.

R27ERs alone puts SM2 above J-16 right now as they are a game changer for late game 1v1s. It doesn’t even need the crazy radar gimbals…

On the other hand, not everything has to be meta for someone to enjoy. I personally like J11B over 27SM even though it is inferior to it.

I know not every aircraft can achieve this. This is just one of the aspects I personally think defines a BR 14.7 aircraft. It also includes missile count/performance, engine, airframe, and other avionics like the RWR. Overall, aren’t the only reasons the J-15T or J-16 can stay at BR 14.7 just the PL-12A or the WS-10B?But the drawbacks of the PL-12 in the current game are also quite obvious, aren’t they?

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yes same also goes foe J15T i think a modernised J11 would have been a better idea but whatevs.
it will be getting new kit later tho likely.

yeah i do think things like the EW and the PL-17 could still make them good by all means

I think they can only carry 2 pl-17s… not a lot compared to r-37m, aim-174 and Aim-424

La vitesse du J16 n’est pas aussi rapide que celle du J15T

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wNMPweM7xiuh
:( can we stop

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I know, I’m just tired of the fact that every time a new plane with a standard AESA is introduced into the game, they start talking about how it needs to have angles like the EF2000/IRBIS

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of course they saw what J15T performanced in nuke thunder so mach limit 2.1 for J16 for sure

This affects all Su-30 airframe in the game. Su-30sm2 cannot break Mach 2.1 either.

A missile that cannot be evaded by just holding down the A/D keys to roll

Chinese jets will not be good until the self claimed “buff” they gave to the PL-12’s which made them unable to hit maneuvering targets is reverted, they just refuse to understand this

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The 2.1 Mach cap is likely because it shares the same stats as the Su-30MKK.