Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

china dosent use TVC on their jets afaik

(besides the Su-35 but thats not a domestic jet)

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What exactly does it need to “feel like a true 14.7 jet”?

200 missiles at least

Either HOBS missiles and/or >90 degree gimbal radar would be my guess

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The Su-30SM2, Rafale and AESA all have aspects that make them seriously stand out. The J-16 as was shown just feels like a less/not shit J-15.

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thats what i always expected it to be,

if a good FM was wanted we shouldve gotten the J-11B"G" with WS-10B

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Can the J-16 even carry PL-8B?

Also; can anyone find Magazines or Books which mention AKF98A for the J-16?

I’ve the feeling pictures wont be enough.

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it did in the dev stream

i cant irl

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be superior to 30SM2 or Su-35S in every way according to chinese mains

no. It doesn’t even fit.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wNMPweM7xiuh

can we not be stupid

I think it was too early to add the j16, at least if this is the way they are going to be doing it, it is too mordern to be lobbed in having a omly pl 12 and pl 8B (which it cant even carry) like i think the j11 BGH wouldve been a better addition this update, cause like whats even the point of the j16 when its just like a j15 that has more CM

You’re asking too much of the WT Playerbase.

😂 why are people expecting miracles man

physically impossible for that radar array to have the same/similar over the shoulder capability

like i said the J-11BGH wouldve been an actual airframe upgrade, and if gaijin did its magic it would also have missile count and a good RWR.

I always expected the J-16 to be kinda a nothing buger larp plane

i think that is fair. i mean i do like the j16, but i always had a feeling they were gonna butcher it somehow

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I expected it to arrive with the next gen of missiles, 9X/Meteor/PL-10/15 etc.

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The conditions should be very prominent advantages:

Airframe speed — whether it’s the Typhoon or the Rafale, their airframes and speed are unmatched.

Radar — a really exaggerated, wide-angle radar range.

Missiles — either quantity or powerful missiles.

Maybe the reason the 15T and 16 are at 14.7 is 10 x PL-12A? Or WS-10B? Maybe, but I don’t know…