Well j15t only entered service in 2024 so am not surprised there isn’t any or very little sources about the plane
Plus the fact that it has no export model makes it worse
china doesn’t ralease anything about non export variants, hope that changes in the future
maybe you should find this “concrete evidence” for them then, if it’s so obvious to you
do you genuinely think the PLA just publicly releases data on all of their current equipment? whenever soldiers or vehicles are shown on the news they aren’t even allowed to identify what unit they belong to
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No I’m just salty because they decided to ruin bug reporting by using goofy ai sources.
Also it’s not like I’ve not reported chinese planes b4.
And another thing that’s annoying is Chinese players that think that some physical limitstions on Russian flankers don’t also apply on Chinese ones which is like… what?
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can someone ban this guy? he only hates on Chinese vehicles with no sources
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Is he wrong tho?
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I mean they can at least release the general performance for their vehicles/equipments, its not end of the world.
China behaves so secretive that its not even funny at this point.
this is like “why bother it” situation.
Its true tho.
Many countries release their equipments performance sheets when it comes general values.
When it comes to China tho we dont even know basic things about most of their recent stuff.
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fully pragmatic/utilitarian workstyle. after all you don’t need to advertising military things to everyone like civilian products.
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If that were true other countries wouldn’t even bother to do that.
Most successful arms dealers (aka countries) always does that.
I don’t think so. and things are also different in Chinese military sales, the sales are agented by several specific state owned companies, they give product menus to potential customers, or the customers who need something and name their requirement then these companies will find the product suitable.
these menus or brochures are usually not top classified, but just don’t released to the public until someone scan and post them. even scanned and posted, they are usually not so easily achieved since they are usually spread among some “core players”.
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pl12s are so much better its not even funny
to add to this, aim120ds are simply not better than pl12as, they were worse before the aim120d and pl12a were added and they are still worse cause nothing changed besides launch limits removal(which are actually viable in pl12s)
you mostly focus around soviet and russian stuff, much more stuff available
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bug reports has been useless
Yeah but “hydraulic limitations” and other similar limitations will always apply if a plane is Russian or Chinese either way.
It’s just dumb imo for people trying to argue that Chinese planes shouldn’t have the same limitations as Russian ones just cause the Chinese planes are newer.
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in an absence of evidence sure, is there any evidence hydraulics in Chinese flankers have been changed? also i might be wrong on this but arent those limitations not in the game currently?
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Rudder lock up and roll rate lockup are definitely limitations modeled in game. Just look at the schimitar or other British planes for example, that thing has a horrendous rudder at speed because it locks up at near its max speed according to the manual irl afaik.
For flankers
@MatrixRupture thats right right
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Yes the manual says the rudder gets very stiff and by 550 knots or so it’s almost impossible to move.
It’s about the only plane I know of that has an irl limitation in game.
For example the MiG-21 would shake and vibrate violently at about .95 Mach below 15,000 feet. So they were effectively limited to below this irl “the Q limit”
In game it’ll blast straight past that.
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