Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Gajin can literally do almost whatever with chinese toptier and we couldnt bug report it lmfao

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I’ve played around with the J-15T a bit, and it’s just as I thought—in my opinion, this plane can’t hold its own at the top tier. The F-15GE, even though it’s a 14.3, is a much better fighter than the J-15T.

The J-15T starts running out of jammers after dodging the first few enemy missiles; then we have to flee the battlefield even though we still have more than half our missiles left. I don’t have the engine upgrade yet to fire the PL-12/ PL-12A at higher speeds, but I can already see how this plane’s fate is shaping up—DOA & EOL.

I’ll research all its modules to 100% and it’ll go into the hangar to wait for better times. I suspect that even changing the BR rating to 14.3 won’t save it if it still only has 48 CM.

PS: Do you also get the impression that the AIM-120C/D are significantly faster and better missiles than the PL-12/PL-12A? Where the AMRAAM reaches its target, the PL-12/PL-12A is easily evaded by the enemy…

PS: I just discovered the PL-12, so my K/D on the J-15T is pretty low, but even these first few battles show that this fighter, in its current form, has no business being in BR 14.3–14.7, I’m a pretty average player and I’m still learning how to play effectively, but I’ve played enough to sense that something’s wrong with this plane.

48CM for a top-tier, what a joke… Somehow, the fake flares on the F-5C didn’t bother the snail anymore…

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In my first few matches this isn’t too bad, just 1 for 1 all the time. But then again you are a top tier plane, mediocre should not be your first impression for a plane that gets only downtiers.

The 12A is better than 12 in terms of ignoring notch for sure. AMRAAMs are faster anyway, and all the PL-12A carriers are slower than AMRAAM carriers anyway so that doesn’t help.

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So far, I’ve unlocked the PL-12, and I still have the engine and the PL-12A left to unlock, but I already have a bad feeling about this—mainly because of the constant shortage of CM. The J-10C is already in a tight spot with that, but it’s usually enough for most battles if we play conservatively with CM. Here? Even if I use them sparingly, I run out halfway through the battle… I’m not going to fly to the edge of the map and shoot at the enemy from 50 km away… You have to get close to shoot something down, even if it’s just ~25-30 km, and then we have to defend ourselves, but you need CM for that, and they run out quickly… I don’t know who approved this plane in this form…

The F-15GE is the GOAT compared to it; I saw potential in it from the very beginning. Even the new PoBIT, despite having only 6x ARH, is a better plane in my opinion right now, but okay, I’ll hold off on my final opinion until I’ve unlocked all the modules and played a few dozen battles with the plane’s full capabilities.

**PS:**So far, I get the impression that this fighter is like a Ferrari—but without wheels, perched on bricks—and it’s all because of its ridiculously low CM.

In this magic game, the only way to fly the J-15T is to keep your altitude and speed high, and use your massive payload to save your CMs. Basically, just missile anything that prevents you from reaching Mach 1.8, be it an enemy jet or an incoming missile.

U could just bombard your way through missiles. Trade missiles for chaff basically.

Cant wait for north Korean vehicles, gonna be wot levels of fantasy…

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isn’t there a chance that bvvd refuses to add ECM to J-15T once electronic warfare is implemented into the game then, because of the lack of information?

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idk could be, or it could be really shit ECM, up to gajin like i said

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Trophy skin; damn :o

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I hope it won’t be overpriced on the market

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Hot af.

Can’t wait for j16 skins

Wish they added this one instead of another low visibility camo.

Just to be clear, regarding my previous posts where I claimed that the F-15C GE (14.3) is far superior to the new Chinese J-15T, today I got my hands on an F/A-18E Super Hornet and, in my opinion, even that completely outclasses the J-15T, despite having lower speed and weaker acceleration… Seriously, in my opinion even the Super Hornet is much better than the flying shark :(

It’s sad that Gaijin treats the Chinese nation like this in this game…

Why is the Hornet better than the Shark? The AIM-120C/D reaches the target faster and is more likely to hit the enemy; secondly, the 120CM already allows you to play at the top tier, whereas the 48CM is a nightmare… And that’s enough; with the Hornet, we can easily accelerate to Mach 1.3–1.4, and that’s enough for the missiles to start hitting their targets. The PL-12/PL-12A, even when fired from Mach 1.8, are significantly less effective than the AMRAAMs…

Even my own statistics seem to confirm this; of the five 9th-era aircraft I own, the J-15T is the worst of them as of today. The only remedy I can see for it is to change its BR to 14.3 and add extra CMs until ECM mechanics are introduced into the game.

PS:In short, even the F/A-18E is more enjoyable and effective to play than the J-15T, EOT.

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Generally, ESM capability is provided by conformal antennas on the J-15T’s leading-edge flaps (including RWR). Directional ECM, on the other hand, is part of the AESA radar’s functionality. As for the rear-facing antenna, I haven’t yet identified which specific one it is… ECM has a higher classification level than radar…

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please tell me where you’ve gathered all this information from, i’ve been trying to find any information on the J-15T’s ECM/ESM systems for ages and i’ve come up completely empty-handed.

honestly, I’m starting to feel like there is a non-negligible chance that gaijin refuses to implement ECM to the J-15T because of a lack of public information on it.

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does the production J-15T even use the PL-8B pylons?


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i’ve never seen any photo of serialized J-15T with the PL-8B wingtip pylons. these are the only photos i can find of a “J-15T” with the PL-8B wingtip pylons, and they seem like they could just be J-15 frames with modified landing gear for the catapult launch bar, particularly because the radome seems to be of the old J-15 type.

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of course not, the J15T was revealed officially around 2024, the PL10 already replaced the PL8B for like 8 years by that point

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The above conclusion can be drawn by comparing the changes in external sensors and antennas between the J-15T and the J-15, as well as the layout of similar functional equipment on the F-35.

No. In fact, the wingtip pylons on the J-15T also differ from those on the J-16. The J-16’s wingtip pylons are clearly marked with “Do not fly without nitrogen bottles”, whereas the J-15T’s wingtip pylons are slightly different in shape and lack this marking. Some speculate that this makes them compatible with a new small-diameter BVR AAM (the PL-16) to compensate for the fact that the outer underwing pylons cannot carry it due to aileron placement.

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I wonder why a plane that has been improved specifically for catapulting cannot catapult to take off in the game …