There are a lot of examples added based on speculation in the game, and this one is really not lacking. Since this is the J11/16/15 partition, let’s take J11B as an example. KH29 and GB250 were added based on speculation, and none of the J11B aircraft serving in PLAAF have carried these ammunition. However, one J11B aircraft serving in AVIC Flight Test Institute has undertaken the testing mission of China’s ground weapons, such as GB3 and CM400, which have photos, but there are no photos of KH29 and GB250. Both were added to J11B’s arsenal based on reasonable inference
They aren’t based on speculations theses examples are straight up fictional. And they shouldn’t be in game to begin with.
Even if the J-10 and J-20 shared dual pylons we simply dont know as there are no pictures of the pylons on the J-20 where they’re identifiable.
And even if they were the same it wouldn’t prove compability with any of Shengyangs fighters
Agree,until we see official documents or photos it shouldn’t be added.
absolutely unique TempestDamager guided bomb
I’d like to remind you to distinguish between a pylon and a launcher —the latter is the universal component.
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i think we as war thunder player give magazine depth a bit too much importance, irl planes fly in groups which already carry more missiles than theyre likely to need, + the missiles are far more reliable. 8 missiles is already ALOT of a2a missiles by irl standards, there are some absolute missile trucks but theyre the exception not the rule.
thats seems insanely counterproductive, i doubt china is ever going to fly the j20 with this configuration, it already carries the most missiles out of any 5th gen to my knowledge it doesnt need outer pylons killing the rcs
Doesn’t it carry 8 internal missiles of total? Same as F-22 iirc.
Intercept cruise missiles or, before entering radar detection range, expend all external ordnance and then jettison the pylons to return to a low-observable state.
True, but it carries pl15s no? Fairly sizeable size difference between pl15 and aim120.
F-22 can also carry additional missiles with stealth pylons.
Not to mention it will most likely carry Aim-260 soon as well.
this kind of theory won’t work for modern planes.
for modern planes, the data bus is digital programmed, as long as the hard point can hold the weight and has data interface, you can put anything you like, just update the program, not modifying the plane in mechanism.
using foreign weapons may need some decrypt and authorization, but not for domestic weapons, as for pylons, they are just like computer’s expand station, it also need to be programmed and authenticated, but not a big problem.
same for other planes, AIM-174 is never seen on others except F/A-18, but you can’t say only F/A-18 can use it, also for R-77M in SU-35.
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Similarly, among Soviet Flanker fighters, no variants other than the Su-35S have ever been equipped with a ventral composite pylon, and therefore it should not appear in the game either.
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If you look closely, the empty pylon visible in the background of the photo is clearly an ejector launcher designed for FOX-3 missiles, not a rail-type launcher for short-range dogfight missiles.
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Not all ejectors are for missiles, more commonly ejectors are for bombs, typcially missiles on wings are rail mounted with expections for large missiles like AIM-54 or AIM-174.
but in this image, clearly it’s not bomb ejectors, like the one on right wing same position.
to be more precise, the marked one is PTF15 pylon, used for PL-12/15, usually 15
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Yes, but the ejector I am referring to is clearly longer than the one at the symmetrical position on the other side, and the shape of its forward section closely matches missile launchers previously shown at air shows. On reasonable grounds, I would argue that this pylon is intended, at minimum, for large air-to-ground weapons or medium-range missiles. Furthermore, if you look at the cutout geometry of the relevant hardpoint, it matches the cutout position of the ventral pylon, rather than that of the rocket launcher pylon on the other side.
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Probably wide enough for a missile in this instance. You got a photo of that type of pylon with a AAM on it?
Nice, definitely a missile ejector then.
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