I’m excited for both the J16 and Su35S tbh, I do quite like the camouflage on the 35S the PLAAF has. I do however prefer the domestic missiles 110% of the time, hence a leaning towards the J16. The only thing I don’t want to see is the J11BG and Su30MKK (MK2 would be the only acceptable option of the two Su30’s imo). J11BG wouldn’t offer anything over the current J11B currently besides a radar upgrade and maybe better missiles in the future. Otherwise I have good hopes for the future of Sino flankers!
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J-11BG should function as a Jaguar Gr1 to Gr1b style modification to the J-11B, unlocking a new AESA radar in rank 4
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fixed plate aesa radar so t4 eft , gripen E , su35 will have the advantage in bvr due to their azimuth coverage.
Yes 100% that is the only acceptable way I see the 11BG being implemented besides as a 420krp speed bump! The only notable visual difference between the 11B and BG is the change of nosecone color afaik… Wonder how they would do that if gaijin went with the modification option.
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Bvr is more about the ability for a radar to sustain targets in it’s given angle, increased azimuth isn’t beneficial for combat, only situational awareness
su30mkk in the game will be a two-seater j11a(shit)
I hope j10b/c,medium are more popular now in the game(in my experience)
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Yeah the Su30’s wouldn’t be too great, I just want them because of the Flat-top vertical stabilizers lol!
I would also prefer we get a J10C this update, like many folks.
they use both
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And I ask you, what missile has the J-11A been using for over a year now. XD
Everyone knows they already operate the R-77AE, the question was about whether or not the Su-35S would get the -1s, which is does, and that was answered about 20 messages ago…
are u trying to rage bait ? do u really think it offers 0 advantages for combat ?
I’m not arguing that Gimballed AESA radars are bad, quite the contrary, they are exceptionally good on the JAS-39E for example, however they do not have a definitive advantage outside of notching performance, and with the gimbal restricting coverage, they sacrifice overall awareness in front of the aircraft at any one time if the gimbal is in effect, which is what war thunder’s current BVR meta focuses on, frontal awareness and radar efficiency, with high gimbal limit radars being beneficial but fairly niche
later J-11B’s should also have WS-10B engines
Same engine as late J-16’s
So Aesa + significantly higher thrust
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Imo the BG would be best as an Event vehicle maybe … I personally don’t feel like the engines and AESA are worth another 420,000rp when the J16 will be right there. If they added the 11BG as the next end of line vehicle I know for sure I won’t be in any kind of rush to actually get it. But that might just be me, who knows haha.
To me it would feel like another J11A situation, like sure it’s an upgrade but it’s hardly a meaningful one when there are other more unique options available
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Again, could just be a mod on the J-11B, no need to bog the tree down with pointless 400k+ aircraft that only have a couple of changes
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No.
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They should remove the first J-11 and folder the J-11B with a B late
The base J-11 is cool, the J-11A however can go, i’d be more than happy to see the J-11A replaced with a late B
That works too I guess. I think the late J-11b would definitely warrant a jump in BR so making it a modification would be hard
Yep, it will be lucky to just not end up worse.
The only issue with this is that I can’t recall gaijin ever having a modification that physically changes the engines for different ones, theres just no precedent for it right now. Gaijin usually doesn’t do things as ‘adventurous’ as that despite it being a great idea. :(