Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Most images of j15s they have some form of al31, either they’re in service with a kind of al31 derivative or they’re preparing to switch to ws10h. I think they’re likely going to stay in the al31f platform

this photo is from 5 months ago it seems there half and half
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the nozzle for WS10 is longer than that of AL31 which is stubby

WS-10 nozzles are shorter than AL-31F.

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currently only that prototype one. all service one uses Russian engines.
close source say it’s a deal between CN and RU to keep the UEC’s ability of producing navy engine.

to be fair only one prototype F4J got HMD So i think its fine

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This is the 206th J-15T, and the fact that it isn’t equipped with the WS-10 speaks volumes—this number already exceeds twice the maximum operational capacity of three aircraft carriers.

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The older AL-31F-3 has been out of production for years, yet the PLANAF continues to procure new engines. The Series 5/5-01 is the latest naval fighter engine we know to still be in production. I previously mentioned the AL-31F-3 SER. 45, though it’s unclear whether it is equivalent to the Series 5 or was procured before the Series 5 entered service. In any case, improved AL-31 series engines have been fitted on aircraft from later J-15 production batches through to the J-15T. While the WS-10 (H?) has already been cleared for carrier use, it will likely not enter active service in order to maintain logistical consistency on individual carriers.

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I guess it’s not counted this way.

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Based on a comparison of the production serial numbers of the J-20 and J-35, this represents the 206th aircraft produced overall, which falls under Batch 04—a different numbering system from the four-digit serials previously used for the Flankers.

I mean, this should count the old J-15 in the 206, so not so many

Maybe. This, however, would require confirmation from J-15 serial numbers to verify. Until such evidence is available, I remain skeptical, as there has been no precedent of different variants sharing the same serial numbering sequence.

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surprised they haven’t started carrying pl-15s more considering they’ve been in production for like a decade now. 99 percent of pictures of j-15s are with pl-12s still

The older J-15’s radar lacks sufficient detection range to effectively employ the PL-15. One potentially bold speculation is that, for the sake of logistical uniformity, the J-15T might be directly equipped with the PL-16 instead of the PL-15. The PL-15 is now approaching the end of its production cycle and may soon only be produced for export, similar to what happened with the J-10C.

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Doesn’t the new j-15ts use a development of the j-11d radar? At least thats what it looks like giving their tilted radar dome.
I would assume most j-15s are still with the j-11b radar, which is why most still use pl-12s as you’ve said

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it’s just a way of layout. meaning they have similar aim, to get a bigger radar and a bit advantage in stealth.

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The AL-41F-1 isn’t a variably bypass turbofan… Nor does the AL-41F exist beyond trials.

He’s talking about al-41f original for the mig 1.44. and that engine definitely exited

Where did it exit?

You are right, I mistook documentation on the engine designated AL-41 for use in the Mikoyan 1.44 for that of the AL-41 in the Su-35 series fighters. The Su-35 has a fixed bypass ratio it seems. This is rather silly of me to not discover this issue sooner.

This revelation is iconoclastic to me, i.e. shatters the image I had of Russian engine superiority over the Chinese. I suppose while they built and tested the variable bypass ratio (so did the US in the 90s), since the Russians never mass produced it - they are probably on the same page as the Chinese in that regard. Stuck with F119 equivalent turbofan technologies for the moment.

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