Poor MiG-15 probably has it the worst
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Technically the designation “fagot” is referring to bundles of sticks used as fuel to start a fire, though it is unfortunately rather similar to a derogatory term.
In terms of progression with CN Flankers, I would say we skip the Su30MKK and head to the Su30MK2 instead. I would prefer a J16 or one of it’s derivatives instead however it would be nice to see regardless. Not sure where we would put the J15 and all it’s variants however.
The J-7 made major visual modifications to the airframe such as double delta wings. These aircraft had massive structural changes compared to the Russian MiG-21’s and operated in areas where the difference between a fishbed and a fishcan could mean winning or losing a fight. The fishcans were using more advanced weaponry at one point, such as the PL-5 and PL-8 when the MiG-21’s were utilizing only R-3S, R-60, etc.
Aside from that, the capabilities of the Russian and Chinese flankers is not as varied as the MiG-21 to J-7.
All of the analogies you and the others have made to try and discredit my point on the Chinese flankers being only minor derivatives of their Russian origin have failed.
I would say there is no reason to give China a Russian export fighter at this point, they have their own indigenous modifications and designations.
For a multirole fighter, the J-15 is a superior choice.
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ofc they mean something, do you really think they would make that whole system for no reason whatsoever?
really? i always heard it was the musical instrument they named it after
I’m unaware of the CAS abilities of the baseline J15, otherwise a J15A or J16 would be better options imo
J-15 = the air-to-air fire control system of the J-11B + the air-to-ground/surface fire control system of the JH-7A + two additional hardpoints
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Eeehh even then it still has the Su33 AL31 engines, at least on the baseline J15, so maybe J16 instead for multirole? Given Russia has gotten it’s pinnacle multirole flanker in line with the Strike Eagle, it’s time CN got theirs.
That’s too overpowered. Just wait for J-16 with PL-10/15/17 (J-16 is not compatible with PL-8B) and choose J-15 with PL-8B/12 for now.
currently Chinese CAS basically based on how soon Gaijin can bring some more loadouts, there are plenty choices. Sadly they haven’t added C704 series this update but only models.
also, IR LS-6 with turbo engine in triple pylon is also a choice, Chinese equivalent of AASM.
Can the J-16 not use the PL-9C? If it indeed can then it could be added with that instead of the PL-8B for balancing reasons, I do recall the basic PL-9 model itself being hidden away in the files so it could be put to good use with the J-16 if added.
I’d much rather a J-16 with PL-9C/12 than a J-15 offering not a whole lot of improvement over what we currently have.
The PL-9 series is an export series not used by domestic aircraft.
It’s hard to imagine that there are two fools who keep attacking Chinese planes, turning a blind eye to the mistakes that have been pointed out. Only believe what you want to believe.
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No. Because of the wingtip pylon, J-16 only use PL-10.
Damn, I don’t expect Gaijin to introduce advanced IR missiles very soon so that’s a shame, unless the PL-8B gets improved soon enough IR missiles and Radars are the only things holding back top tier China air.
The PL-8B’s are great though.
Eh… they aint bad, but I wouldn’t call them great. Too much energy for just FOV IRCCM
Definitely great. Its the same IRCCM as missiles like the magic 2’s and R-73s, also great missiles
“Too much energy” is a new one though, never heard that before.