Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

It doesn’t differ, it’s still the same 5 fuel tank

Well that is not what your source says, it says the entire centre section.

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He is arguably a better source than the book, so take that how you will.

I don’t really consider a guy named VVS RF to be a source, moreso a silly disturbance that adds a bit of laughter to my day with the silly stuff I manage to read from him on random threads that he apparates into ))))

Do I take a random Russian guy on the internet’s word or an actual published piece of media? Who knows! Nonsense! ))))

(This is tongue-in-cheek)

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I don’t know a better firsthand source for Sukhois.

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What exactly are his credentials outside of “makes a Su30 mod for dcs”? All I know about him is that an equivalent would be ‘some guy named USAFUSA makes a F15EX mod for DCS’ and I’m supposed to trust that? If he does have genuine credentials outside of that I would love to know, because currently I haven’t seen much in the way of that. Mostly just posts of the normal Russian sales pitch figures and snippets of manuals he may or may not have. I am not entirely sure if I’m supposed to believe what he says as gospel regarding flankers just based on that alone

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His business is not mine to share, what you would like to know doesn’t matter. Even if we presented firsthand source material to Gaijin, it is just an arcade game and they have denied outright the firsthand source materials for other aircraft anyway.

So you’re telling me to ‘just trust him fr’, and that it doesn’t matter anyway? That’s fine. At least I have a little clarification regarding it. Thanks!

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I didn’t tell you to do anything except to “take that how you will”, and you are. So good.

just ask him yourself

What is the source of this image?

Details from the book… (pages 545-547)…
On the Su-30MKK, they really keeled from the T-10M, but without caissons for fuel tanks…
Because, tail beams from T-10S…

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Does that talk about STR, ITR? or the like.

No

Can you explain what it is please? Is it an engineering textbook?

Perhaps a link to its page on publisher/seller’s website?

Features of the Design of the Su-30SM Aircraft Control System…
Textbook for the Moscow Aviation Institute… Publishing house MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute). Moscow 2019

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So essentially a secondary source
With figures that don’t match what the manufacturer says

This is the only source I’ve found that directly provides empty weight data. If you have a more credible and direct source, please share it.

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I immediately assumed it was from the Book…
There will be no primary sources for a long time (there are now about 540 Su-30MKI/MKA/MKM/SM/SM2/SME in the World)…
The oldest is 20 years old…
So as primary sources appear on Rafale/Typhoon, maybe then…
Therefore, for Developers, the game of this book, among other things, should be enough as a source!..

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