Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

I remember this, though I mess this with the modular one, that is for ASM and other large loadouts

They aren’t fake units, they are in Feet and Knots

J-16 low-altitude pass

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He’s better at everything than the su27sm.

Sure, except the part where it is missing half its radar range, the supposed 30 degree elevation that doesn’t exist, the useless piece of shit ACM mode straight from the dogshit N001 abomination, non existent gimbal range, literally no better than using the N001 on the dumpster fire J11A but sure

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Developers really don’t like to change what they have set up themselves. Without documentation, they do not change, even the obviously incorrect characteristics of the equipment, unfortunately. Chinese technology is worse than in real life, because there is almost no documentation for it at all. And not because snail hates Chinese technology.

Really, because it sure doesn’t seem that way when they invented the F16AJ and Ho Ri Production out of thin air, or how the Thai F-16A-15OCU is basically science fiction, there’s reasonable guesstimation and then there’s literally making it worse than the 1492 that it succeeds, every single time they give chinese planes the worst version possible until there’s so much backlash that they absolutely cannot just stick their heads in the sand anymore

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Its not just china getting stiffed on radars atm. Something weirds going on.

The PS-05/A Raven (Gripen radar) was a made into essentially a copy paste of the Blue Vixen, a radar it was based on, but significantly superior to.

The CAPTOR-M, a sort of sister project of the PS-05/A, and widely considered the best mech scan radar on a jet, which was also developped from a Blue Vixen is arguably inferior to the BV in-game.

The NO11M Bars radar from the Su-30SM has mediocre vertical scan zone of only 7°, less than half that of the other Russian PESA in-game, the V004 on the Su-34, which to my understanding is an older radar.

Ans now I hear the J-11B’s radar is also not performing to expectations?

It seems just about everyone except France is getting screwed on the radar side of things at the moment, its really weird…

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it’s a bit different. the examples you listed is like these radars have a little problem, which stopped them reaching their best.
For J-11B’s 1493, it’s just unfinished, it can scan 100km range planes in codes, but copied N001 scan modes put a limit on it.
it’s like put a 20km/h speed limit on Abrams

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And yet none of those magically have their lock range slashed in half because these incompetent buffoons can somehow forget to fix radar modes before release, it’s the difference between not having the capability at all vs supposedly having it and not being able to access it because of incompetence. But yes it is quite absurd overall with the captor M also being dogshit

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which are fake units nobody cares about. Hell even look at official documents like annex 5 of ICAO

China is using correct units, the cockpit should have those everywhere

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Ah yes no one cares about the internationally recognized standard for aviation units. LMAO some jokes write themselves.

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China doesn’t use those, I don’t think, so in this context they are incorrect, cause this thing was really problematic for civil flights as they used knots/feet in HUD, but the Chinese control tower always gives this in metres rather than feet and km/h rather than Knots. Although, funny enough, distances are almost always given in nautical miles, and then speed and alt given in km/h and m. China has some strange aviation units but in this case I think China does use m rather than feet.
Edit: also his point does stand to a certain extent, ICAO has been promoting these units.

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If you’ve ever taken a flight anywhere in the world they’d have been using knots and feet for navigation 👍

The entire world separated places when traveling by land or sea by ‘nautical miles’… Except Russia.

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Russia is in transition to nautical miles RN. Nautical miles is used for distance, but not for all distance, a bit of a mess RN with these things. China uses m and km/h though for sure. I am pretty certain J11B uses km/h and m.

I really would rather get rid of miles, nautical miles, knots, feet altogether, same with the pound gallons stuff.

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ICAO annex 5

The ONLY official system to be used in aviation is Système international

nothing else matters

ICAO does not have a stop date as to when knots will be replaced by km/h and likely never will because all modern GPS and measurement systems for naval or air travel still use knots and nautical miles.

Not only is nautical miles superior, it is unlikely to ever be replaced.

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As far as I know, kph and km were used in the J-11B, but the PLAAF has switched to knots and nautical miles for the J-16 and J-20.

Didn’t notice this until today, Huzzah.
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Hopefully it will be implemented soonish alongside the new afterburner.