Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

it’s a bit different. the examples you listed is like these radars have a little problem, which stopped them reaching their best.
For J-11B’s 1493, it’s just unfinished, it can scan 100km range planes in codes, but copied N001 scan modes put a limit on it.
it’s like put a 20km/h speed limit on Abrams

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which are fake units nobody cares about. Hell even look at official documents like annex 5 of ICAO

China is using correct units, the cockpit should have those everywhere

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Ah yes no one cares about the internationally recognized standard for aviation units. LMAO some jokes write themselves.

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China doesn’t use those, I don’t think, so in this context they are incorrect, cause this thing was really problematic for civil flights as they used knots/feet in HUD, but the Chinese control tower always gives this in metres rather than feet and km/h rather than Knots. Although, funny enough, distances are almost always given in nautical miles, and then speed and alt given in km/h and m. China has some strange aviation units but in this case I think China does use m rather than feet.
Edit: also his point does stand to a certain extent, ICAO has been promoting these units.

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If you’ve ever taken a flight anywhere in the world they’d have been using knots and feet for navigation 👍

The entire world separated places when traveling by land or sea by ‘nautical miles’… Except Russia.

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Russia is in transition to nautical miles RN. Nautical miles is used for distance, but not for all distance, a bit of a mess RN with these things. China uses m and km/h though for sure. I am pretty certain J11B uses km/h and m.

I really would rather get rid of miles, nautical miles, knots, feet altogether, same with the pound gallons stuff.

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ICAO annex 5

The ONLY official system to be used in aviation is Système international

nothing else matters

ICAO does not have a stop date as to when knots will be replaced by km/h and likely never will because all modern GPS and measurement systems for naval or air travel still use knots and nautical miles.

Not only is nautical miles superior, it is unlikely to ever be replaced.

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As far as I know, kph and km were used in the J-11B, but the PLAAF has switched to knots and nautical miles for the J-16 and J-20.

Didn’t notice this until today, Huzzah.
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Hopefully it will be implemented soonish alongside the new afterburner.

I guess no radar fix yet then?

None that I can see, a lot of J-11B reports are just closed and marked “Not enough info”. There is still a bunch of stuff that needs to get fixed, but until we get responses from bug reports we aint gonna know nothing.

Yeah good luck lol, even after what happened with VT5, CN community rallying up, with evidence that the tank designer themselves stating it has more armor than what it has ingame, Gaijin has yet to fix it.

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Good point, I absolutely am not in a rush to get either of them.

Is it known by any chance whether the J-11BG or J-11D have WS-10B? ​​Or do they still have WS-10A?

J-11BG is based on existing J-11B airframes, maybe after the refurbishment it could possibly have received WS-10B but I’m not sure. I don’t think WS-10A is in production anymore in China or at least in large numbers.

We know that the J-16 is using WS-10B, and since J-11D development was in a similar timeline I think it would be using WS-10B.

Well, I hope then that the next Chinese flanker will be with the WS-10B (it doesn’t matter whether it will be the J-16, J-11D or BG)

(But most of all I want the J-16, of course)

I just want the J-16, it is a true multirole and plus, it can cary more air-to-air missiles than any J-11 except the J-11D.

WS-10B should be slightly lighter than WS-10A (by approx 100ish kg) and have around 14 tons of thrust, 14.5 being the highest reported figure, so J-16 will have a better thrust to weight ratio than J-11B even, weight of J-16 is said to be 17000-18000kg region empty, supposedly it is 17,700kg.

similarly. J-11B is better than nothing, but it looks ridiculous compared to Su-30

If it has that kind of mass, it will be really cool

Did any of the j-11BGs get ws-10d?