Yes, J-11B with aesa, pl-12 and pl-8b that would be good.
Not really. SU-30sm are just Russian Version of the MKI. Early variant of Su-30sm even have western component. Late variant have these component change for Russia made. But so far they are the same plane.
People just need to remember that Russia military was almost frozen. And it start kicking in the late 2000’ early 2010’. That its why thing like Su-27sm, sm2 and sm3. Have like 3 to 4 years of dif. (2004/2011).
Why Russia and China still fly old Flanker models against thing like Rafale or Eurofighter is unknow for me. Russia and China have a lot of Flanker variant. Why China TT don’t have a J-16 is just stupid at this point same with Russia TT still lacking the Su-35s.
When Lurking on Rafale or Eurofighter is funny how these guy fight for sensor fusion and stuff. While China and Russia are lefts on the dust. I would understand if both country haven’t produce better plane. But that its not the case. Its bad for Russia but its even worst on China. Where is J-15, J-16, Su-30mkk. Both nations Should have receive Su-35s.
Maybe they lack info about these plane. But if that is the case. Just make it equal to other stuff in game until they can get info and change it.
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Gaijin has shown to make up stats completely, so that is not the issue.
J-16 should have been released and Su-35S as well, we have an Rafale from the late 2010s in the game, why Gaijin didn’t choose J-11BG instead of the B this update is beyond me.
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su30sm is basically copy paste su30mki from 2001
There are still some differences especially in the avionics department, Su-30MKI has more western technologies incorporated and also some reliability problems which were fixed on Su-30SM.
the differences irl dont matter in game , it would be the same in game. same radar , same rwr , same engines , same airframe.
Fair, but my point that J-11BG should be added instead of J-11B still stands.
J-11B is comparable to a F-15C, idk why Gaijin has to delay J-11B until now and not give China an actual 14.0.
yea
But J-11BG it might own vehicle from J-11B
Personally, battle rating 14.0 or higher.
In fact PL-8B IRCCM better R-73/R-73E 6%
I suppose the second or third major update gajin might improve IRCCM higher AIM-9M & AAM-3 2 % or 3%
It depends on what will justify the BG beyond 14.0, some 14.0s already have an AESA radar and incredible flight performance while J-11BG will still only have 6x Fox 3 and 4x Fox 2 loadout.
I mean it’s possible for Gaijin to give the BG the WS-10A (late) with slightly more thrust (135KN vs 132KN of current WS-10A), then again it’s Gaijin, I don’t know how they will model the BG so…
The problem is the only Flanker newer than the BG in Chinese service is J-15T, BG is very recent (started appearing in 2018-2019), and we essentially know nothing about it other than anecdotal evidence from PLAAF watchers making logical guesstimates. Though the good thing is apart from the radar, maybe the cockpit avionics/HMD integration, and refurbished/latest batch of WS-10A engine there isn’t much difference between it and the J-11B. BG can also carry PL-15 and PL-10 but I don’t think these missiles are coming to War Thunder anytime soon.
There are some rumors that the BG is using WS-10B engine, same as on the J-16, but then again nothing is confirmed.
Edit; I was mistaking it for the F4.
They got the empty weight for the J-11B wrong, too.
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I think they didn’t factor the weight decrease of the new radar, 1493 is a decent amount lighter than the N001.
Yeah, the empty weight is supposed to be 700 kg lighter than the SU-27SK by adopting new composite materials. IDK if the radar reduces it further.
source: https://news.cctv.com/china/20080115/101600_2.shtml
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/p/2008-01-15/0746481266.html
To be fair, the engines are a bit heavier (WS-10A) than the AL-31F, I don’t think it should be more than 700kg.
Could someone please make a bug report on the fact that the J-11B’s radar function ( Type 1493 ) is currently modelled as the N001
Feels more of a copy of f15 radar
