Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Well F16A OCU should be 13.3 anyways, same as F16D, which actually just trades HMD for manoeuvrability. J15 has no business being 13.7 with F15C, just outright inferior cause u barely have enough CMs to even complete 1 notch and after u are very vulnerable to IR guided missiles.

J-11B skin, J-11BH no.33

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Is it actually that white or just the rendering?

Naval J-11Bs have white paint
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Yes, the J15s have internal ECMs and you can also use ECM pods in the wing mud.

And where can I read information about the design of Chinese engines? As far as I know, the ws-10 uses the design solutions of the F-110. And the ws-13? Or is WS-13 a copy of RD-33?

yes that’s it the WS 10 takes the design technology of the F110 unfortunately I have not found an “official” source talking about this, but all the blogs, forums and websites confirm it in their own way, the WS 13 is a national RD 93 (the RD 33 and RD 93 are identical the only difference is that the manual gearbox is at the bottom for the RD 93 and at the top for the RD 33).

from memory but I could be wrong the RD 93 is taken from the RD 33 Series 2, which has been patterned and optimized

RD 33

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DR 93

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And to some extent, the WS 13 has received improvements over the versions compared to the RD 93.
WS-13IPE could reach or exceed 100 kN.

Does anyone have information on the J-11Bs usage of targeting pods throughout its service history? I do believe the KH-29TE could be equipped on them, but the usage of a targeting pod? I’m not quite so sure

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any evidence of internal ECMs of J-15? I keep hearing people talk about it but I have not seen a single diagram of any kind of ECMs on the J-15.

also do you have images of J-15 with ECM wingtip pods?

There’s also the J-15D as a dedicated variant

I’m quite confident that J-15s in the first image are mockups on the Fujian during her final construction phase.




see the lack of the “flying shark” emblem on the tail

The J-15D is the navy equivalent of the J-16D for the PLANAF, it’s equipped with interal ECM equipment.

You can tell the J-15D by the J-15 by the lack of IRST present on the nose, and the obvious ECM equipment installed on the aircract.

Oh, some good news from patch-notes (if you did not researched J-11 yet):

Another good new is J-10A finally recieved PL-8B.

Now my beloved J-10 became even better.

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Time to cause some major mayhem

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Hell Yeah :)

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Still placeholder radar modes on the J11B

Not as important but still no HUD tint either, even though the exterior model of the cockpit shows it clearly.

They are mockups but they show the ECM pods quite well