Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

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Well, I’ll tell you why I think so.

  1. In terms of weapons, I am referring specifically to air-to-air missiles. The R-37M is a very good missile, and its performance is about the same as that of the PL-17. The R-77M can also be said to be sufficient for the requirements of Russia. But when will the fourth-generation IR missiles in Russia go from drawings to reality?
  2. Given Russia’s tradition of promoting military power, if they really used sufficiently advanced composite materials for the Su-35 (or other aircraft), then I would have known about it in various propaganda news. And in China, the production line of the J-15T openly uses composite materials, and the J-16 is still being kept secret, but it is clear that the technology used by the J-15T does not make sense that it will not be used on the J-16.
  3. The argument over radar systems is the least necessary. Most U.S. fighter jets still use GaAs AESA radar, but GaN AESA is already widely used in China (from the most advanced fighter jets to the most common trainer aircraft equipped with AESA). Why is the Su-35 still in service with PESA? As far as I know, only the Su-57 uses AESA, why hasn’t Russia replaced AESA for their fighters yet? Don’t you want to do that?
    All data on the J-16 comes only from PLAAF propaganda, because this is highly classified equipment. So there’s no way I’m going to come up with authoritative enough data — I don’t want to go to jail yet. In other words, you can question as much as you like.
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Outstanding

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Can the radar track targets (with their search zone) in TWS mode?

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Yeah

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Great! Now I can rest in peace…

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I mean, seems accurate enough to me.
War Thunder search range seems to be for 3 square meter RCS target, 120km is about right for that.
Amount of DL channels is pretty good though, 8 when I expected 6.

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TWS+ nice

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Maybe Gaijin wants to give us double pylons so that there are 8 rockets?

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Issue on the gaijin website rn, the radar seems to be placed too far forward in the x-ray.

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Finally

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I doubt it, most likely they have given 8 channels to be able to recycle this radar and put it on the J-15 the laval version that has 1 extra pylon on each wing.

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I mean, J-15 is said to use the same radar as J-11B with minor modifications for anti-ship role, so not surprising.

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I had faith that they’d fix it

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No I don’t think so, for example the J8F has 6DL but only 2 fox 3

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J-8F need Pl-8B

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yes I also think it only has 6 dl targets but gaijin gives 8. But it’s ridiculous that J11B only has 6 PL12

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Unfortunately I don’t think there is a source that Gaijin will accept on this matter, we do know J-15 can carry 8x though.

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Teeeechnically there is a dual pylon in existence for J-10CE, if 27/30SM can have racks from another plane, why can’t J-11B?))

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I’m not serious if you couldn’t tell.

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I mean, honestly, maaaybe… if J-11B gonna show itself on live same level of scrap as 27SM use to be update ago, but by the looks it wouldn’t, for 11B fixes, it seems, all issues of 11A (poor radar, outdated RWR, poor BVR missiles) that we had. Still we should have 11B in the same update as all other Fox-3 slingers and in “Hornet’s Sting” see J-16 or, at very least, J-15