Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

finished spading the relevant part of j-11b, gotta say its a real nice plane to fly.
Having maws is such a nice to have, as well as it having the best maws in the game.
the better high altitude/high s[eed performance is nice to have for bvr in arb, and the pl-8bs imo are some of the best ir missiles (although i really wish it had seekershutoff irccm instead of gatewidth)
and all of this on a lvl 3 - 6 crew
I really wish it had a good irst though, irst on this thing is basically useless being a mig 29 copy paste


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also the userskins on this thing are real nice

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level 6 non experted pilot after 4 g turn in a top tier jet
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yeah died quite a few times from just crashing into the ground locked out or just unable to fire cms lol. when i first started spading it i only had 2 bars filled in the g tolerance thing/

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PL-8B is goat to do long range sniping lol

I prefer R73 tbh but Pl-8’s are also nice.

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Same. Feel like it is great at long range but in that case why not just use PL-12 and for other flankers R27ET. R-73’s TVC is goated though especially as flankers aren’t that manoeuvrable.

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Well since my first All-Aspect Missile is AIM-9L, I’d always like PL-8B for being AIM-9M with R-73 seeker, that sneaky attack is really satisfying when achieved.

anyone have the image of the j-15 empty weight released by cctv

looks like j-16 is 17700 kg

I think this is state media?
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@Clap6005-live whats the credibility of the source, from what I found its like cctv kinda but idk much about china

no, it’s a part of Sino News, not official. it’s information is just collected from internet.

aight thanks

how about this site? for j-15
https://rfb.ln.gov.cn/rfb/rfzs/A99899606A034894A76AFF07851946F4/index.shtml

official website, but not trusted, just a publicity materials collected from internet, very untreatable.
I mean, it even says J-15 is subsonic

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wow 17.5 thats much lighter than I tought

Would the j-15t/b be heavier? Also what’s the difference between the b and t j-15?

The J-15T may be slightly heavier or maintain its current empty weight due to increased composite material usage. The designation “J-15B” initially referred to J-15 fighters equipped with AESA radar aboard the Liaoning and Shandong aircraft carriers, but subsequent verification revealed these were actually J-15T variants with their catapult launch bars removed.

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My accidental discovery of this data enables precise calculation of the J-11B’s operational empty weight, though the diagram’s origin and reliability remain unverified—treat these computations as reference only. The chart indicates that a J-11B at 21,940 kg gross weight can withstand 8G maneuvers, while at under 2,700 kg fuel load it achieves 9G tolerance. Thus: 21,940 × 8/9 = 19,502.2 kg, yielding an operational empty weight of 19,502.2 - 2,700 = 16,802.2 kg. Converting to basic empty weight involves two approaches: (1) Referencing the Su-27SK’s operational empty weight (about 17.3t) versus basic empty weight (about 16.8t) suggests ≈16.3t for the J-11B; (2) Using in-game data, basic empty weight calculates as 16,802.2 - 90 (pilot) - 30 (oil) - 96 (countermeasures) - 60 (cannon ammunition) = 16,526.2 kg.
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That is beyond unreasonably low