A old Chinese paper about engine TWR standard.
航空燃气涡轮发动机推重比（功重比）的概念和确定方法 - 道客巴巴
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I will read this when I have time
It’s a old paper before Chinese standard of engine weight was set. the final standard could be different, it’s better to find original file, but I can only find Chinese one
HB 7497-1997 航空涡轮发动机重量的确定 - 道客巴巴
in Chinese standard, WS-10A weight is almost same as AL-31F.
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How they can change name… when this name only for NATO? Or do they need to apply to the NATO office for a name change?
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Well considering NATO kept the same designation, then it means the Chinese aircraft are, well, nearly the same airframe.
The new update trophy is here … and the J-11B gets almost the exact same skin the J-11A already has ;-;
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well thesame guys made 3 different reporting names for the mig-21
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I mean, to be fair, does PLAAF even employ a great variety in their camos to begin with?
no, that’s why you can easily identify a Chinese Flanker by its camos.
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But even here it literally only 4 variants (+ raddome): Full Gray, Full Black, Full White and Light Gray + Deep gray. It all just shades of gray… except 30MK2
grey is beautiful.
but yes, that’s why I always need this sheet to identify them, it’s quite hard to remember all these grey
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Super disappointed, first the J11 had a Su35S camo, cool! But then they give the same camo to the j10?? Then The J11A comes, cool a J16 camo!!! J11B, same thing?? Like frankly there’s other cool camos for these planes on WT live with markings and details but no, just have Su35S and J16 skins from now on.
Chinese-made aircraft are copied from the Su-27 and its modifications, so these discussions are appropriate here.
Could we please stop throwing unnecessary insults and maintain a respectful discussion?
The thread IS about Chinese flankers, since the aircrafts are similar it is allowed to mention the other part of the flanker family but if the discussion dives too deep into the Russian side it can be moved to the other thread.
Please keep this thread clean.
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IDK but what does grayish mean?
I missed the R at first … Was wondering what are you talking about …
NATO applies the same name to a family of fighter jets, the J-11 belong to the Flanker family. I don’t know what nonsense argument you are trying to make here. Do you think the J-11’s deserve a new name since they are clearly not just the same airframe with only minor modifications?
I mean… MiG-21 vs J-7?
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I was hoping for this one made by the same guy, but I’m still glad we got a high quality J-11B skin that actually makes the plane look both clean and modern, as opposed to the heavily weathered stock skins.
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I mean I guess his point is that China didn’t use the name flanker, they have their own thing, like neither do Russians use ‘flanker’ for Su27s. This is a NATO designation and can’t be over interpreted. I mean, do Russians want their planes to be called Felon and Frogfoot?