His business is not mine to share, what you would like to know doesn’t matter. Even if we presented firsthand source material to Gaijin, it is just an arcade game and they have denied outright the firsthand source materials for other aircraft anyway.
So you’re telling me to ‘just trust him fr’, and that it doesn’t matter anyway? That’s fine. At least I have a little clarification regarding it. Thanks!
I didn’t tell you to do anything except to “take that how you will”, and you are. So good.
just ask him yourself
What is the source of this image?
Details from the book… (pages 545-547)…
On the Su-30MKK, they really keeled from the T-10M, but without caissons for fuel tanks…
Because, tail beams from T-10S…
Spoiler
Does that talk about STR, ITR? or the like.
No
Can you explain what it is please? Is it an engineering textbook?
Perhaps a link to its page on publisher/seller’s website?
Features of the Design of the Su-30SM Aircraft Control System…
Textbook for the Moscow Aviation Institute… Publishing house MAI (Moscow Aviation Institute). Moscow 2019
So essentially a secondary source
With figures that don’t match what the manufacturer says
This is the only source I’ve found that directly provides empty weight data. If you have a more credible and direct source, please share it.
I immediately assumed it was from the Book…
There will be no primary sources for a long time (there are now about 540 Su-30MKI/MKA/MKM/SM/SM2/SME in the World)…
The oldest is 20 years old…
So as primary sources appear on Rafale/Typhoon, maybe then…
Therefore, for Developers, the game of this book, among other things, should be enough as a source!..
The T-10M used a wing from the Su-27UB
Wait, wdym a wing?
Translation error
There is no cope in here about sino flankers except from the sino patriots claiming absurd things like their aircraft have empty weights of 17 tons… That’s nonsense.
can someone please explain to me why are we talking soooo much about russian sukois when the thread name clearly stated that it’s " Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion"?
yes in the original post there are mentions of china getting the russian bought planes but it’s not part of the core thread, this is for chinese made planes so stop posting about stuff that is not in line with the argument of the thread and comparing is this better than that and bla bla bla
thank you