Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Well, you wrote nonsense, the Su-30MKK is based on the same Su-27UB, and not the Frankenstein that you described.There was never any fuel in the vertical stabilizers

Nonsense

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SU-30MK KnAAPO
Stop writing nonsense and blatantly lying

I bet you haven’t carefully read this material, because the one you provided actually proves my point.

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The center section of the Su-27M is not suitable for the head of the Su-27UB.That’s why there were additional jobs.Vertical stabilizers were taken from the Su-27M. Because the head and increased weight affected the stability of the track.The wing is standard from the Su-27UB enlarged profile

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Since you acknowledge the presence of Su-27M elements in the MKK design, we have no disagreement. This indicates that the internal fuel tank arrangement of the MKK differs from that of the Su-27S.

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It doesn’t differ, it’s still the same 5 fuel tank

Well that is not what your source says, it says the entire centre section.

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He is arguably a better source than the book, so take that how you will.

I don’t really consider a guy named VVS RF to be a source, moreso a silly disturbance that adds a bit of laughter to my day with the silly stuff I manage to read from him on random threads that he apparates into ))))

Do I take a random Russian guy on the internet’s word or an actual published piece of media? Who knows! Nonsense! ))))

(This is tongue-in-cheek)

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I don’t know a better firsthand source for Sukhois.

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What exactly are his credentials outside of “makes a Su30 mod for dcs”? All I know about him is that an equivalent would be ‘some guy named USAFUSA makes a F15EX mod for DCS’ and I’m supposed to trust that? If he does have genuine credentials outside of that I would love to know, because currently I haven’t seen much in the way of that. Mostly just posts of the normal Russian sales pitch figures and snippets of manuals he may or may not have. I am not entirely sure if I’m supposed to believe what he says as gospel regarding flankers just based on that alone

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His business is not mine to share, what you would like to know doesn’t matter. Even if we presented firsthand source material to Gaijin, it is just an arcade game and they have denied outright the firsthand source materials for other aircraft anyway.

So you’re telling me to ‘just trust him fr’, and that it doesn’t matter anyway? That’s fine. At least I have a little clarification regarding it. Thanks!

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I didn’t tell you to do anything except to “take that how you will”, and you are. So good.

just ask him yourself

What is the source of this image?

Details from the book… (pages 545-547)…
On the Su-30MKK, they really keeled from the T-10M, but without caissons for fuel tanks…
Because, tail beams from T-10S…

Spoiler

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Does that talk about STR, ITR? or the like.

No