Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

IIRC it can, but I doubt we will see them any time soon. Best case scenario is already in game PL-12 and PL-8B

Never. Gaijing need u to spend more time.

PL-10 will probably only come for J-10C, or a mid-life upgrade airframe of the J-10A that includes the JKL-24 AESA radar and integrates PL-15s for it as well.

50-50 chance the j10b doesn’t get anything for air to ground, actually it’s got the same air to air loadout as the A so they’ll probably give it pl8B’s and call it a new plane.

Some nice footage from ZhuHai Airshow. Anybody know what the right J-15 is carrying? ECM pods?

J-11B (Early) and J-11BH

J-11B Late outfitted Type 1493 radar and armed PL-10

No, that’s not what I need. I mean “widely equipped”, let’s say what is the radar used by the vast majority of J11Bs? I and many Chinese military enthusiasts think that it should be the Type 1493, and the Type 1474 is only a small part. But here it’s the other way around, so I’m wondering why and what the specific sources are. After all, you know, a better radar will make me have more fun :)

Those are ECM pods yes, that is the J-15D, basically a Chinese counterpart to the Growler.

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PESA radar is probably just rumor originated from western media since I have not seen any talk about it from Chinese sources. Also why upgrade to PESA when other PLA aircraft are already using AESA radar. On Type 1493 vs Type 1474 there seems to be more people supporting it is Type 1493 as Type 147x is smaller size radar fit for medium fighter like J-10.

The only radar upgrade of the J-11B should be switching to AESA on the J-11BG.

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Think so. They brought so many filming equipment lol.

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So they now have the J-16D and J-15D for electronic warfare?

Yeah.

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J-11B uses the Type 1493 radar.
Keep in mind the last two numbers of the designation refer to the diameter and the generation of the radar. Type 1493 is a direct successor to the Type 1492 used by the J-8F, as it is now third generation while the J-8F’s radar is second generation. And both radars have a diameter of 900mm.
J-8F’s radar ingame has the ability to provide datalink to 6 missiles at once, so it is very good in capability. J-11B’s radar should have notably improved range with some sources stating the detection range is up to 150 kilometers for a fighter-sized target.

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The transmitter power of Chinese airborne radars:

Transmitter Model Average Power (W) V W (kg)
1491 / 1492 300 46 42
1473 300 43 46
1493 1000 40 40 dry / 50 Fill oil
1479 85 20 17
Pearl 1600 23 22 (cooperation with Russia)

1493 is using more than three times of average power compared to 1473 on the J-10A and 1492 on the J-8F.

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You got additional secondary or primary sources on the J-11B using the Type 1943 along with the performance stats of it?

Does anyone have any photos of any J-15 variants carrying PL-10s other than this one?

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Sino defense forum is also decent for newer insights, most of the PLA watching community online are gathered there.

Type 1474 radar likely does not exist. The way Chinese radar designations work is Type (Research institute + diameter class + generation) so Type 1493 would mean 14th institute (NRIET) and around 900mm of diameter and 3rd generation. We know that 1493 would likely indeed be the radar for the J-11B as it is one generation newer than J-8F’s 1492 radar (which IOC’d in the early 2000s) and that N001 Mech on original Su-27SK and J-11 is in the regime of 1000mm in diameter, and whatever replacement for N001 should be similarly-sized. Statements made by officials also refer to the radar as being 1493 on the J-11B.

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Here is an image of the 1493 unit. The entire complex diameter is much larger than any of the 147x series of radar, like that on J-10.

Rough performance specs are as follows. Around 900mm diameter for the antenna, pulse-doppler, 1000 watts of average power consumption over three times the preceding Type 1492, search range for fighter-sized targets ≥150 kilometers, engage 6 targets at once with ARH missiles providing datalink.

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Another image of the 1493. Compared to the man on the left it is definitely larger than 700mm.

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Last photo it’s n001ve su30mkk

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J15 may take 12 AAMs?