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It doesn’t need 9Ms, it kept the same BR relative to the F-16A and and is actually lower than the variants with access to Sparrows now. None of them have 9Ms and they honestly shouldn’t get 9Ms either unless they all move up by another BR step.

It has the same chance at 12.7 now as it did at 12.0 before. Again, it having to deal with Fox-3s was and still is not a reason to give it better IR missiles.

Idk… what about Mirage 2000 Cs5 and Dr1 problem

Everything you say is completely false, ALL the planes they fly with are much faster than him… F4, MIG23, KFIR and so on… We have no chance of arriving before an F4 to bomb a base in part and even less escape when you are attacked… But YOU don’t want to recognize it… do you at least play the Tornado?? I no longer count the number of games where I only have crumbs left to recover or those where I get shot down while taking precautions… I’m sure YOU don’t want to see him go down because for you he is a target more than easy and a quiet way to make points once again… Don’t tell me otherwise NO Tornado can compete with the planes present in its BRs… At the limit the models using AIM120 but there it is is another discussion.

The Tornado isn’t exactly a fighter. The best way to use it is kind of like the F-104, take long passes through the battlefield

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I’ve been using the GR.1 yesterday and used the F.3 extensively. You can get to the bases before the F-4s do, depending on the map the Kfirs and J35XS’ might get to the bases first tho and the F-4s might be able to take the base with rockets before you get to drop your bombs, but that’s just part of the game.

Taking just enough fuel to make the trip and only 5 bombs usually allows me to get a base and maybe a kill on the way. If the bases all get taken before I get one I take a few ground kills and return to base, unless I’m feeling cheeky, in which case I start looking for a fight I can take and work a bit on my mechanical skills (making use of the wing sweep and reverse thrust).

I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand that the strike Tornados actually got positively affected by the BR changes. The italian IDS, the ASSTA1 and the GR.1 can no longer be meet F-16s armed with Sparrows, F-15s, AV-8Bs, Sea Harrier FA.2s and J-8Fs. Since full uptiers limit the amount of planes that are a whole BR above you to 4 they also have to deal with fewer MiG-29s, Yak-141s, F-14Bs, F-16As and F-20s.
Further, the IDS MFG and WTD don’t even have to deal with these aircraft at all.

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You have German tech tree on Ground, the Bis is only 10.3 in GRB.

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Only that the ASSTA1 (at least in the german tt doesnt get a search radar)
So just gbu means that the plane is .3 br higher in air rb MAKES SENSE (in my oppinion they could have left the Tornados all at 11.0)

That was with the same AB burn time as the F-4C. Spoiler: F-4C can bring less fuel than the Mig-21s.

EJ Kai is the best Phantom. Best radar of its BR, 9Ls, and AIM-7Fs.

The italian IDS and the GR.1 don’t have the MFGs search radar either.
They all get an ACM to lock planes for their EEGS tho.

Nah, your not convincing me otherwise at all here tbh
It needs 9Ms or a lowering of its br and keep the 9L

Are you just upset because you bought a premuim jet and it is not OP?

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Are you joking me, 13.0 most of the time will facing 13.7 and what we can do with 60 countermeasure, 2 Aim-7 and 4 Aim-9L

F16AJ, F16A ADF, F16A MLU now is very incompetent when almost of the time will face 13.7 and has only 60 countermeasure, 2 SARH and 4 non IRCCM IR missile

You never touch any F16A but you said as you flying them for hundred of hours

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Mate, they still meet the same planes. Nothing about their performance changed.

Have you ever fly it, do you have a feeling of 95% of your flying time, you will face with Fox-3 Spammer?
If the Frequency to meet top aircraft, i thinks it is ok but, almost of your time you will face them 19/20 matchs. Give me some advice, please,
Oh, i have checked your record, you never fly any F16 or any 13.0 plane, so, you have no right to speak anything

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Haha not at all it’s merely an opinion on something, it’s ok to not agree isn’t it?

It getting matched against Fox-3s doesn’t mean it should go down in BR.
Either the BRs of the ARH planes go up by enough BR steps to stop them from meeting non-ARH planes or they start splitting the matchmaking for ARH and non-ARH planes. Reducing the negatively affected planes’ BRs or giving them access to better IR missiles doesn’t improve the situation, it only makes the planes more powerful in downtiers while not doing anything about the actual problem.

Also, I have flown a (former) 13.0 plane, but I guess you didn’t see the Gripen. I just don’t give a crap about BVR gameplay.

the only plane you have enough flying time to debate is Tornado and Jas-39, no of them has faced the situation as right now.
So, what is your evidence to strengthen your opinion?

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I dont say it need to split the MM for ARH and SARH,
just to arrange suitable BR for them. Do you understand?