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Of course it still spanks em in actual close range fights. The point is that the F-16A is limited to AIM-9Ls and doesn’t get any SARHs, making it inferior to the F-16A ADF, so they end up having different BRs.

Sparrows are still very potent missiles, even when the R-27ER exists and them being on a F-16, which has a way better radar than everything else at that BR, definitely makes them a bigger threat than AIM-9Ls.

which have a better FM than the ADF and the only difference is some fairly mid missiles that are already heavily prevalent at a lower BR due to F-4S spam

you’re saying that like the R-27ER isn’t almost an entirely different class of missile considering how big the gap is
also imo supertemps are better

F4S traded everything else for it, it’s underpowered, it’s not exactly that agile and it got some really bad avionics, that’s not a thing on F16

Lol what? R-73 and 27ER is a imbalance pack to eat f4ss (brat da ti ebanulsa. Daje daun na Mig-29g budet nichego ne delaya havat fantomy pachkami. U tebya luchshie IK i PARL raketi v igre protiv ebuchego 3 pokoleniya)

but apparently the F-4EJ Kai being 1 br step above the F-4S like it always has been is super egregious to you guys, clownish

It isn’t. The F-4EJ Kai is completely fine at 12.3

old mate laurier has been chimping about it

R27ER is very much better but how about their carriers?
Can Mig29 fight the slightest with F16A in terms of anything else? Just anything? It’s just like F4S who traded chassis for missile.

a MiG-29G which is at the same BR as the F-16A ADF will beat it at BVR and WVR considering it has a thrust vectoring IRCCM missile with HMD that the gap in flight performance is not going to close

As I’ve already said before, the MiG-29G is sitting too low right now.

We discussed this and I don’t wanna bring it again, maybe Mig29G is better, maybe, although I could still confidently beat a mig29G in a mirage 2000D, but let’s suppose it’s better.
Then you need to raise the BR cap and give mig29G a higher BR? is it so hard to understand???
So that you don’t have to destroy everyone else below
You guys are exactly why Gaijin put F104A on 9.3

F-16A ADF at 12.7 would not “destroy everything below” let’s be honest with ourselves, a MiG-23ML is losing to a MiG-29 9.13 just as much as an F-16A ADF

So you are asking for compression then, is that right?
Instead of levitating the BR cap and move things up, you decided to drop F16 down?

For the F-16A ADF to be able to go down everything below it would have to go down as well or the compression would get worse again.

yes every plane in the game should be compressed into the same 1.0 BR range

the compression is worse now already, just higher up

And why is your solution to make it EVEN WORSE then?

the F-16A ADF going to 12.7 would be almost unnoticeable actually

Then why would you not ask for raising the BR cap? Can you not fall in the gaijin trap on that? they are purposefully compressing toptier almost always, like always, to force you to grind the newest, is it so hard to see? That is the real problem.

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