Yeah…
It would just be better to remodel F-4C to F-4D, give it ALE-40 (maybe 7Es) and retain 9Es
Identical to F-4C except upgraded radar and ability to carry countermeasures
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GDR Su-22М4 10.3 in TRB
wake up snail
Spoiler
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Listen to community before adding changes to br. Game is now worse.
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Nah, the compression hotspot just moved from 9.3-10.3 to 12.0-13.0.
The quality of matches from 9.3-11.3 increased by a lot.
Do we actually read what he wrote?
Gaijin quality!
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It’s a shame you guys are punishing mirage2000d so hard… not only the gun is a pain in the *** it only gets 2 missiles… and somehow it’s considered as good as mirage2000c with 2 radar missiles and internal guns which can be aimed properly with eegs. Not only that now i face mirage4000 and grippen as a mirage2000d (old 11.3 even old 11.3 aircraft like f4s face those). It’s a total mess we should revert br changes keep the stock grind stuff.
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In all fairness, the Python 3 is arguably a worse missile by far. It has the Aim-9L seeker (notoriously bad flare resistance) and only has better range. The Magic both has a tighter turning circle and similar (albeit still worse in comparison by some margins) acceleration. However the IRCCM makes the major difference.
F-20A should be 12.3 NOT 12.7
MiG-21 Bison has HMS, R-73, R-27R on 12.3. F4EJ Kai Phantom II got 4 AIM7F, 4 AIM9L on 12.3.
Tigershark can literally do nothing against not even 13.7, but 13.3 and 13.0 planes like MiG29G and Su-27
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Currently, the J35XS sits at 11.3, which is the same battle rating as the F-4E, an aircraft which is objectively more capable at this point.
To contrast the J35XS and F-4E:
- The J35XS Has no RWR, whereas the F-4E does. After the multipathing height adjustments having an RWR is crucial, especially to avoid dying to an ARH/SARH missile.
- The J35XS’s fight performance is rather mediocre at the moment, barely beating out the F-4E if at all.
- The J35XS has 12 countermeasures which fire in pairs of two, giving you 6 “pops” contrasted to the F-4E having 90.
- The J35XS has no radar-guided munitions, being fitted with exclusively R24J missiles.
So, why are these two aircraft now at the same BR? Before the current changes, the J35XS was at 10.7 with the F-4E being at 11.0. While the J35XS does have six pretty decent missiles for the BR, they’re easily flared off with even a couple of rockets from my experience. If the J35XS were either at 11.0 or had it’s flight model changes reverted/adjusted it wouldn’t be an issue, however in it’s current state the J35XS is just not a fun aircraft to fly.
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“The unscheduled Battle Ratings changes with decompression for toptier aircraft have been implemented.”
Gaijin loves to make MASSIVE changes, with very little warning, and greatly ignores player feedback. Then they push the change through anyway. This is incredible. Why make us play a messed up game for weeks (potentially months) before you fix it? All they had to do was be patient for a few more days.
Patience, you know… like how players have been waiting YEARS for tech tree bonus xp after fully researching trees. Yea, we’ve waited years. But some BS like this they push out in 3 days.
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Who cares what “people” want? Most people literally cannot even take care of, or think for, themselves. Michael malice said “the downfall of democracy is that the people who NEED leaders are too incompetent to choose them.”
F-5C is worse than F-5E in almost every category. Literally, a 10 year old could see the problem here.
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F20A is insanely fast and absolutely outmatch Mig21Bision. Aim7F is also better than R27R.
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Efficiency stat moment
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God I hate how they balance off of “efficiency” instead of actual aircraft capabilities
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Have you personally played F20A to make such claims?
But F-4C never armed GBU-1/B " BOLT-117 ", GBU-10/B & GBU-12/B Paveway I Laser Guided Bomb and GBU-8 EO Guided Bomb. not equipped targeting pod AN/AVQ-10 Pave Knife and AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike
I think F-4D Phantom is the first USA fighter aircraft deployed guided bomb & laser guided bomb and equipped targeting pod
Honestly, outside a couple aircraft, these changes are not bad at all.
They might finally make 9.3-9.7 playable again. Finally, I am able to play my Mig-19 without facing F5Cs all the time.
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Well now I finally realized that the person responsible for balancing has never played war thunder himself…
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For everything below 11.0 these are great changes, 11.0-11.7 has some questionable changes, but 12.0-13.0 is even more compressed than 11.3-12.3 originally was.
Considering their intention was to decompress top tier, they weren’t very successful
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