My bad i completely over looked that one lol
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Belgian F-16A on 13.3? Has no sense.
It does not have radar missiles. Don’t put it in 12.7, but in 13.3? Lower it to 13.0 with the Netz, for God’s sake.
F-4j(UK) going up in br feels unreal, how is it expected to compete in top tier with only skyflash(DF) and aim-9G?
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Do we belive him?
Not as bad as Kurnass 2000, no SARH missiles at higher br than F4J.
the skyflash is pretty good at close range
Correct me if im wrong but aren’t the python 3s all- aspect?
Yes
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Mirage4000 is BR13.0…?
Mirage4000 does not even have SARH missiles that can be used properly, let alone ARH missiles.
There is no way such an aircraft could have a higher BR than the F-14B.
13.0 is effectively 12.3 in the last BR range, it got downtiered
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Decompression is when two different planes (F-5C and F-5E) are at same BR.
Why the hell Su-25SM3 is at 12.3 when Su-25T is at 11.7?
They’re effectively the same in air rb, but SM3 is for some reason is way higher.
People have been asking the F-5C be put at the same BR as the E for awhile now.
I’d like to quote Osho, but I don’t think I can. People can ask a lot of stuff, doesn’t mean that it should be done. F-5E is basically superiour in every way to F-5C, there’s no reason they should be at same BR.
F4C 10.7, big brain time, I need to wait more 100 year to play it again. Nice job!
for the same reason the IDS ASSTA1 is higher than the IDS MFG, because peepee poopoo
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Very happy to see the 10.0 hotspot getting decompressed and looking forward to play the new 11.3 lineup.
However, 12.0-13.0 ended up getting way more compressed than it was before and a lot of the concerns raised in the thread about the BR changes didn’t get adressed either:
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F-5E and F-5E FCU: The F-5E FCU should have gone up to 11.7 and the F-5E should have gone to 11.3 like originally planned. Now the F-5E and F-5A/C share the same BR despite the E clearly being a big upgrade over the A and C.
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Sea Harrier FRS.1: The early variant going up by one step is understandable, but why would the late variant go up by two steps if the only difference between the two is 2 AIM-9Ls. Meanwhile the A-10A early and late are still just one BR step apart.
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Mirage 2000D-R1: This definitely isn’t a 12.3 plane, it doesn’t get any SARH missiles. The additional CMs and the improved RWR do not make up for this and therefore the D-R1 shouldn’t be on the same BR as the C-S4 and C-S5.
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F-4EJ: This plane is clearly inferior to the US F-4E and the Kurnass in every single way, why do they all share the same BR?
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However, let’s take a look at comparable machines in the current environment.
JAS39A, Sea Harrier FA2, AV-8B, and F-15A.
Do you think these aircraft are the same strength as the Mirage 4000, which cannot use SARH missiles properly?
I believe that Mirage4000’s BR was unfair even before this BR revision
JAS39A has worse SARH missiles and worse IR missiles than the mirage 4000 and gets less of them
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The A7D and A7E going up is insane. They tend to even struggle in a down tier at their old BRs. There is no way they do well at their new BRs.
The higher SU 25s dont really have a reason to go up. Even if they stayed at their original BRs theyd be plauged by SARH missles and still unable to dogfight other airframes. The R73 loses most of its effectiveness with no HMD or radar to slave it with.
The F4C, which many others have been rightfully saying, does not need to go to 10.7! Maybe 10.3 at most.
The F104sasa is DOA now.
The F5E cpuld go up with the rest of its competition, but jesus the pther F5s should never be at the same BR. Especially the F5A.
Seeing some of the SU17-22s go above 11.0 with very few flares is very disheartening.
The J7D needed to stay at 11.0. But the J7E being better in every single way shouldn’t stay at that BR too. STOP CONSIDERING THESE TWO AIRCRAFT EQUAL!!!
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The previous 12.7 and the new 13.0 BR are fine. The new BR might even be beneficial to it, as it now gets to fight Phantoms in downtiers.
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