I guess we should also forget the fact that british players just had to get a new mod to fight with ARH, swedish players didnt get that, they got a plane that shouldve been here when they added the gripen C to everyone else. So again if you play sweden air you have to use no ARH to u lock bith the JAS39C and A. Also britain got more air vehicles then sweden did but that doesnt really matter unless we talk CAS, did britain need more CAS planes? Why did gaijin think a 3km agm would be fine for sweden at 13.0? I mean sweden has some of the worst CAS from 8.3+ until you get the gripen. Im just saying it wouldve been nice to have at least the best gripen for 1 patch. Doesnt matter britain will get EFt within y months and sweden will probably get nothing for another year since i doubt gaijin will add f18A-C/D MLU 2 at the same time the us gets f18A.
that wasn’t what my comment was about. i was commenting on
as that isn’t correct. the A version is the weakest one.
Want the best gripen? Grind italy, besides you get way more vehicles that arent trash or play britain and get the same level of decent vehicles and the 2nd best gripen in game.
It is the worst 13.0 gripen
12.7 only plays 13.0, besides its far from the worst 13.0, regardless britain has had the best gripen for months why should sweden not have an on par gripen for once. Besides youll get eft soon enough and the gripen will get powercrept. Since i doubt we will see another swedish gripen for a year or so. Gaijin doesnt like swedish air anyways just 10.0+ ground
12.7 or 13.0 doesn’t matter really. both are basically in the same BR range and fight each other on a very regular basis.
The grind with the JAS39A to unlock the JAS39C was absolute hell as 95% of matches you face ARH carriers but only have SARH or aim9m yourself. the average stats for the JAS39A must have absolutely plummeted during the last few weeks.
Having to use the A for VERY many matches to unlock the C and then grind the C to unlock the Rb99 has not been fun, many nations only had to unlock a module to get the ARH so it was much faster for them.
What makes that one the best?
TBF the SAAF gripen shouldn’t have R-darter, it should have A darter as they never fired R-darter just the A darter. Besides it was awesome reading the hint when they said wed get a gripen C in December of 2023 and hey look it wasnt on sweden and if you played sweden you couldnt even use ARH during testing, if you wanted to play a gripen with ARH you had to play the SAAF gripen. Should SAAF gripen get aim 120’s sure. But then why play sweden air when they dont have anytbing that can be flund on britain or italy? I mean gripen E will go to italy via brazil
Better air tree. Why bother grinding the swedish gripen when italy has the same thing and f16, av8b, tornado, mig 29, and eft. Just saying gripen C is worthless on sweden if thats your only reason to grind though the worst air tree in the game. Japan has the excuse of having better agms than the US versions but the US now has the harrier and f14 and will get constant vehicles.
Guys either Ur undersranding me wrong or Im explaining my self wrong ,I agree with all of Ur statements , yes britain had the best gripen, yes gripens a should be 12.3 ,yes sweden should have gotten gripen c from start ,etc… Yes to all that , Im just mentioning that in the present UK gripen is now weaker to all c models and that if they give agm to all ,which they didn t use but could use they should also give 120 to all which they didn t use but could use ,just for balancing reasons , why did they give it the darter which it didn t use also , my point is they should not BE repeating erros from the past ,all those u metioned and i agree, we are all fighting for the same reason here ,balance as best as possible
The problem is the community doesnt want to be even, why should a nation which is now suffering not have to suffer for the same amount of time as the other nation? Thats the mindset of a lot of players whether they want to admit it or not. I dont think the gripen A shouldve been added so late. It ahouldve been here with the F16C and placed at 12.0 with no hmd, CM pods, and 9m’s. Just 9L’s. Its just a bit better than the f16a in air but just a bit especially after the nerfs. Its too late for that now. Whats done is done and id be lying if i said i dont really care whether britain gets aim 120 or not. I had to deal with the worst gripen for months but britain got it and other jets constantly. Unfortunately im rational enough that i dont want the SAAF gripen to be bad. I want it to have Aim 120 if gaijin wont fix Darter and Derby. The problem is your preaching to the choir when it comes to talking to swedish air players. Its easily the worst air TT in warthunder.
I would understand if there was a crucial difference there, but one had agm-65a and the other had agm-65b. I honestly can’t understand how such a small difference made you suffer on the op meta plane of the last 2 updates.
Ah thats right you’re the guy who thinks its fine if britain gets the best gripen but sweden cant get that, idrc your opinion is so backwards it doesnt matter besides you never could justify your point to me. A rule for all but not for thee. Maybe when you can justify not having agm 65G for the swedish gripen and why the british one can you can get a proper response lmao.
Where did i said that?
I literally said the opposite earlier. It’s the same case, so outcome should be same for both planes.
AH-64DJP cannot carry SPIKE missiles, it was never cleared for them.
Same with USA’s AH-64D, which is one of the initial production.
Strv 121 has DM23 already.
Strv 122 should probably receive DM53 to compliment its M322.
Right now it’s not suffering having a slightly better round than T-90M.
I mean, Strv 122s don’t need DM53 at all. slpprj m/95 is more than good enough of a shell, while those tanks have the best and strongest armor in Top Tier while also being coated in spall liners.
Besides, giving them an unhistorical shell would take away even more authenticity. Ariete gets a pass for balance reasons because its armor and survivability are garbage.
RH120 was and its derivatives were designed for interoperability.
WT should acknowledge that with everyone.
Strv 122s already have significantly superior armor and survivability than every other tank in the game, only 2A7V and 2A7HU being similar, with the exception that they are the only armored tanks on their respective trees while Sweden has 3 of them.
Just giving every RH120 user DM53 even if it’s unhistorical only removes identity, authenticity and realism and, in this case, for tanks that don’t even need it and would make them stand out even more compared to everyone else.
I can get the Arietes getting DM53 so that they are a little less useless; but if there are tanks that don’t need unhistorical buffs in the game, that would be the Strv 122s.
Well most can’t get DM53 due to its higher pressures.
But they can get SHARD Mk1.
Why is agm being added to all gripens with the claim that it is for balancing reasons ,when they didn t use it but could use it (which i agree is the right thing to do )but then SAAF gripen doesn t get the option to use Aim 120 that they didnt use but could use,they didnt use darters either ,why give them the underperforming fox3 ,where is balance here?? ,dont get me wrong Im all for balance and agm should be on all gripens but 120 should be on all gripens too ,that would BE on line with the standard Gaijin claimed that all gripens should be balanced