T-72 has AZ Autoloader where the shells are stored horizontally meanwhile T-80 has the MZ autoloader in which the shells are stored in L shape sort of. A few years ago I found some T- series tanks info guide website thingy written by some guy from Ukraine citing their own tank manuals (I posted the link somewhere on this forum once or twice aswell) in which he stated that T-80s had (iirc) a “Sequence” mode in their FCS which when engaged automatically turns the carousel and prepares the next shell in line to be put into the gun when ready and that the whole process takes under 5 seconds. Tankograd states 6 seconds but they never mentioned the “Sequence” mode, only if its the same type of ammo so I am not sure since I cant find the Ukrainian website atm
If it can be proven and is realistic I support it regardless of the vehicle.
The RARDEN cannon used on the Fox, warrior and others can actually have a magazine capacity of 6 rounds not 3. Yet that will not get fixed as it performs fairly well.
Yeah but imagine this forum if T80 even gets the 6 seconds, let alone 5 or less seconds reload…It would actually break the internet in half
lol not nearly as bad as the Russian fanboys if the Harriers got a time to climb to 30k feet faster than a F-4 phantom. 13 degrees a second STR with just 86% throttle.
If VIFF was modeled even half correctly you could point around at low speed better than a mig29.
Even the flaps are wrong.
Israeli spikes are hella nerfed its very rare to 1 shot nato tanks
They can have a realistic fire rate if we can have realistic armour values modelled?
Russian tanks have been getting away with it for years now with preferential armour modelling to offset the weakness of the autoloader.
“Merkava crying in the corner”
If you think make realistic gonna benefits Russian and make them ahead of anyone
I suggest you don’t
DM53 and L27A1 in the game still don’t have anti ERA
For a reason
Absolutely! And even with those buffs or whatever RU tanks still detonate very easy. Its just the nature of the design. The topic of finding issues with this or that tank can go endlessly but what is the point of that except bashing onto the hated nation by a certain player?
The ERA stats are marketing anyways.
There’s still no picture or video proof of its performance matching modeled. Only marketing and psy-op material that, if it was for any other nation, it wouldn’t be accepted in.
There’s videos of layered Relict stopping things, but that’s not what is in anything but the ufp of the 90m. Look at the deep wells in the t90m in the ufp (xray to the rolled homo armor), that is proper relict and potentially has those stats. The one sheet on the sides doing anything is laughable and 200mm (219 with the sandwich) and deflecting projectiles is egregious. Then, magically, 250 for the turret relict despite it being the same packs except ordered differently?
Meanwhile there is proof it actually doesn’t work in loads of videos where relict can’t take even a non-tandem warhead from a drone.
Comes down to double-standards and possibly censorship on this forum.
NATO document sources aren’t marketing.
And yes, angle of the ERA impacts effectiveness, this is well known.
Also there is no evidence of Relikt not working, and there’s no double standards nor censorship.
I get you want to defend Soviet equipment, but they’re not buffed over NATO tanks and never have been.
And yes, inventing fictions to claim vehicles are powerful is defending those vehicles.
What you are missing, is major nations gets the fixes first, minor nations are last.
There’s probably 1-2 people whom have look into all the corrections.
They have to research them, see if they can get the documentation etc etc.
Since they are / were a Russian based company, it’s EASIER to get those documents.
2.79 - 6.6 = 3.81
Faster than 4 secs… so yeah. Literal video evidence
I am a UK main and have found valid sources about the Harrier I don’t think it will ever get fixed.
Its more Gaijin fixes what they want to.
The Chieftain has proven in trials by UK and US tank crews it can get reload rates in the 4-5 second mark in combat situations.
its like almost 8 seconds in game.
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NATO document sources aren’t marketing.
Only NATO documents with any specifics says DM53 can’t penetrate it in a duel. Duel is frontally. Which is entirely accurate, like I said in my post. -
And yes, angle of the ERA impacts effectiveness, this is well known.
Talking about depth not angle, there are different sized modules used in different areas. Some are deeper such as the ufp, and some are thinner such as the sides. They layer multiple within the modules such as the ufp, but not on the sides. Side is 1 layer, ufp is probably 3-4, turret is about 2, top is 1. I’d assume the effectiveness of each individual layer goes down significantly with each layer, but to model them all ±50mm is crazy. -
Also there is no evidence of Relikt not working, and there’s no double standards nor censorship.
There is CE video evidence, just not of the ufp or apfsds. And there is censorship, you are just on the other side of it. -
I get you want to defend Soviet equipment, but they’re not buffed over NATO tanks and never have been.
People love to look at the Leo 2A7 and say ‘See, russia is not buffed’ but that one is a little OP compared to the rest as well. And of course there is the Pantsir and Kh. Plus in my original post I’m literally just talking about the side module of ERA on 1 tank. It’s a specific bug in their favor and not something overarching like calling ‘bias’. -
And yes, inventing fictions to claim vehicles are powerful is defending those vehicles.
I guess this is a counter argument? Not a good one though as everything I listed is visible.
@archeageisdown
USA doesn’t censor.
Pantsir is inferior than CAS.
And KH-38/AGM-65/Hammer/PGM.3 aren’t all Russian.
Kontakt 1 is the worst ERA in-game.
K5 is defeated by DM53, M829A1/2, and sometimes DM43 equivalent rounds.
And Relikt is correctly more powerful than K5.
I’ve made multiple posts that are denied by the mods for no reason other than they disagree. USA has nothing to do with it. Last one was about ERA and was somehow banned as an advertisement. Literally what? It was just a talk about how ERA is the future due to the increase in missiles.
What is this?