abrams is better than any T tanks when it comes to depression, turret turn and gun traverse. also reverse aside from that im not sure what makes abrams better it is easier to get penetrated from front
Your Abrams is better than Russian tanks in all aspects. Reload, mobility, 4 crew members, gun depression. The only one parameter, bvm wins over abrams is speed. Bvm is faster forward.
But anyway. As USA mains gonna say: Russia has 80% winrate, and Bebrams is worst tank in game. Russian bias!!!
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bro russia winrate is literally the second worse just above US even china and italy had higher winrate
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I wouldn’t go that far , abrams has worse armour and a much higher profile and a very big weak spot , but I would say t90m < abrams , t80bvm =< abrams if both are played by good players but if it’s disabled USA mains or/and wallet warriors the T series is vastly superior
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I doubt that dozens of moan-threads about ERs agree with you.
Who cares what US air mains say. Remember we were on the heels of the F14 demolishing everybody so of course they got salty when their sealclubbing was taken away. Exact same as you Russian mains when you get defensive about your crutch tbh.
Every nation except US performing at least average is a clear sign that problem lies in US and it’s players.
Lol so if I gimped a nation explicitly or covertly and it’s the only one that performs below average then it’s the players’ fault. But for the Flanker it’s like totally different. Bias brainrot.
US is definitely not a 30% WR worthy nation, as their MBTs/lights/planes definitely aren’t the worst in the game to explain that.
ADATS, Bradley, Apache, Stryker as modeled in cope thunder are all 30% material. Abrams 40-45%. Only the HSTVL, RDF, F15 and F16 are competitive. Many other mechanics and the vehicles that US faces worsen this. You just don’t want them to take your sealclubbing away.
And frankly I don’t understand depending on that like you. I’ve gotten a few games with a at least 6 RU on my team (extremely rare for me) and it’s the most boring thing, Pantsir gets all the air kills, Russian tanks are in the enemy spawn after 3 or 4 minutes, standing out of cover and tanking shots broadside…
Find a solution for ODL premium warriors and I’m sure WRs will go up drastically.
Giving them a fair fight would be a start but ofc you don’t want that.
Shooting off barrels/breeches is an effective tactic against all tanks.
This is a lie as usual. BVM and in particular T90M eat rounds constantly and far more often than in the Hit analysis. The weak area around and below their gun is also far smaller and more likely to cause volumetric issues (as intended ofc). Same with the driver viewports, reliable on other tanks but not on these 2
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Russian tanks have a low skill floor, low skill ceiling, and Abrams have a high skill floor and high skill ceiling.
That said, the US teams definitely put a wrench in that.
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This was a bit more than just US mains being salty. They got salty about F-15E getting nerfed few days after release but it quickly died down and was contained to only a few cesspool threads.
On the other hand, 27ER “drama” was full-on moaning that was happening constantly for months on end.
Considering the nation is pretty average, I do think players have a massive role in the 30% WRs as those numbers are way below average.
PUMA, DW, Type 16, KF41, Vextra, Namer, …
ADATS (UK), OTOMATIC, Type 81, Chappy, Flak bus, …
UK Apache, Japan Apache, Z-10, Swedish Apache, …
All those are 30% material as well but yet their nations have far better WRs.
M1s are clearly middle of the pack tanks and surely are capable of 50% on their own.
According to those stats, literally every nation is clubbing at the expense of Click-Bait spammers.
As I said already, fixing ODL wallet warrior issue is the first, and quite honestly the best step to fight 30% WR.
I’m sure even if you give them the best AAs, lights, helicopters they’d still do the same thing as they only own Click-Bait and/or AIM. Those people don’t care about their lineups.
Not on my machine.
Your system probably got infected by the propaganda machinery.
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27ER “drama” was full-on moaning that was happening constantly for months on end.
You’re still just using hearsay. Meaningless unless stats showed those facing the 27ER getting trampled like the US is. At the vehicle or nation level. Learn to concede sometimes instead of hoping I stop quoting you because you want the last word
PUMA, DW, Type 16, KF41, Vextra, Namer, … ADATS (UK), OTOMATIC, Type 81, Chappy, Flak bus, … UK Apache, Japan Apache, Z-10, Swedish Apache, …
Most of those are absolutely not 30% rofl, also their nations have multiple other vehicles that compensate the few actually bad ones (unlike US), and most are minor nations whose vehicle performance doesn’t have the same impact on WR as a major anyway. Must be the 5th time I have to explain this.
M1s are clearly middle of the pack tanks and surely are capable of 50% on their own.
Wrong. They’d be around 40-45% like I said, even if we ignore every other vehicle type. Especially considering they face the 122, 2A7 and T series on the same team. Take that and everything else like CAS and AA into account and the 30% WR is inevitable. Hardcoding Germany to be with US instead of RU would help a lot. So weird that they won’t even do that. Must be personal.
fixing ODL wallet warrior issue
They ODL because they’re new yet they’re fighting the best tanks, helis and AGMs in the game in “mid pack” tanks (at best) with trash AA and helis. Planes are good but require doing well in ground. It’s a catch 22, rigged by definition.
And you can’t fix US ODL without also improving Russia’s wallet warrior perennity.
Those people don’t care about their lineups.
Of course they don’t have lineups lmao. Have you ever grinded a nation that wins 30% of its games? Of course not, that’d require you to actually want to play underdogs instead of just talking about it.
I grinded US without premiums last year and had to quit for 2 months.
Not on my machine.
RU tanks both have and can eat the best rounds in the game without a sweat but according to Russian mains their tanks blow up when you breathe on them. Your testimony worth about as much as the ruble
I just realized that broski thinks the dart is 120mm in diameter lmao. New smartest russian main
You can’t really use stats to prove something is busted if the battles are all mixed up.
Forum being on fire for months is definitely real though.
You mean how all Apaches listed use Hellfires ?
You mean how UK has a straight up worse ADATS and how others don’t even have a valid SACLOS AA ?
If you think Vextra or Type 16 are better than M1128 you’re out of your mind.
If you think PUMA, DW or Namer are not 30% material you’re also out of your mind.
Germany has nothing better than the PUMA, Rad90 and TAM are mid at best.
USSR has nothing better than 2S25M.
But please do tell the other alternatives all of these countries have.
No, they would be ~50% like I said.
US has strong air but it doesn’t matter as Click-Bait spammers don’t have access to that, what a shame, isn’t it ?
They ODL because they only have one vehicle unlocked. This is observable at all tiers with wallet warriors as they can get pretty good results in their first tank and just leave after dying, because spawning something else is literally not possible in their case.
But they do grind a nation with premiums, as that’s like one of the biggest selling point of higher tier premiums lol.
Same goes for uparmored Leopards but you chose to only cry about tanks from a nation you dislike IRL.
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They really gotta add the M1A2T to prove it is the players who cause this win rate. I guarantee the average Chinese main will do better than the average American main.
The problem is, that floor/ceiling on Russian tanks is more than enough to thrive well enough on top tier. That can’t be said on the alleged Abrams.
When you compare the T-80U-E1 vs the M1A1 HC Clickbait, it becomes clear which one is way more forgiving for a premium grind in general, despite not having the best round, gun handling, reverse speed, etc.
You can’t really use stats to prove something is busted if the battles are all mixed up.
Forum being on fire for months is definitely real though.
Maybe in your feelings. US air main I presume? Another underdog moment
Ah nvm, you’ve only ever played Russia air lmfao
And you can definitely look at vehicle stats.
gish gallop garbage
I’m not going to go through all of those to help you drown the fish lol. Vextra and Type 16 are great. Puma is good too, esp. with Spikes. Tams are great esp. 2C… You’re getting desperate.
No, they would be ~50% like I said.
No argument as usual and unlike my post, just “nuh-uh”. Spoiled behavior.
They ODL because they only have one vehicle unlocked.
Nice strawman, will ignore. Also leaving after one death isn’t as big of a deal if you kill at least a couple tanks. ODL is more noticeable on US teams because they’re unable to kill the superior tanks they face and ODL after.
But they do grind a nation with premiums, as that’s like one of the biggest selling point of higher tier premiums lol
They’re not grinding anything . It would probably take a clickbait newbie months if not a year to get to top tier in the current situation
Same goes for uparmored Leopards but you chose to only cry about tanks from a nation you dislike IRL.
Again strawman. I’ve said before Leopards are good tanks but they’re not the best and they’re a lot more fair as adversaries than the bias mobiles keeping that inferiority complex fed.
Yes lil bro putting the abrams in a busted nation that gets paired with Russia will make it better than the PvE cannon fodder that is the US at the moment
Calling China busted is definitely a take
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Maining the protagonists would dull your senses as to what busted is and isn’t.
But fair’s fair. They’re not nearly as busted as Russia, they’re just almost always paired with them. MBT and AA wise they’re very close to Russia, heli and CAS wise, not so much
I never said that once, nor thought it…?
Plug more lies in, and while your at it, write a paragraph of things I never said lol
Just give them the battle of Arachis tanks again lol.
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I mean what other explanation is there for you to think that one dart would normally hit multiple ERA blocks at once? 120 darts are like 30mm, ERA blocks are like 100-200 mm wide/tall
Enlighten me