The point is
It takes jet to do the job to prevent them to do it effectively
As western CAP the thing that need put into consider when try to hunt them is
Pantsir
R-77 yeah, they can fight back too if not careful
basically, you need two thing that need to put in to account mean you need to dodge pantsir and on the same time looking for them and their missile too
what does SU-34 need to worry about?
Only enemy jet
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Let’s just look at the winrates in the top ranks on the tips and compare it with other countries.
You’re the one who brought it up, not me. If airfield AA was as effective as you claim, this whole discussion wouldn’t even be happening. Jets like the SU-34 couldn’t freely farm ground targets from outside AA range if airfield defenses actually did their job. But they don’t.
So you’re saying CAS is never an option if there’s a single fighter in the air? That’s a ridiculous take. CAS is a core part of the game, and you shouldn’t be punished for spawning it. Right now, the problem is that there’s no counterplay when Russia dominates both air and ground. It’s not about bad decisions — it’s about bad balance.
So… never spawn CAS? Thanks for proving my point. You’re basically saying don’t play the game.
Great. So you’ve had twice as much time to see that the balance is broken. Congratulations. Maybe instead of flexing your match count, you should actually address the problem?
And by the way, I’m not just talking about the SU-34. I’ve already mentioned the Ka-50, Ka-52, and Pantsir. The issue is the combination of these vehicles, not any single one.
It’s not about the R-77s alone. It’s about the fact that while you’re dodging the SU-34, you’re also dealing with Pantsirs on the ground and potentially helicopters in the air.
It’s not just one vehicle that’s the problem. It’s the broken synergy between all of them. You have to dodge missiles from every direction while trying to play the game. And once again — there’s no counterplay.
Now, let me flip the question back to you:
Why is it okay for Russia to have fire-and-forget capabilities with the KH-38 missiles, but NATO can’t have Brimstones with the same feature?
The Brimstone was nerfed for being too strong, yet the SU-34 can do exactly what the Brimstone was supposed to do — and somehow, that’s fine?
So again, why the hell is this being defended so hard?
Why is it okay that one nation is the absolute top-tier king right now?
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Im the one posting actual data you’re just bitching about 50Gs in the statcard like some child
Thinking that helicopters in general don’t have busted damage models.
yes CAP options should be cheaper and better air defense options available to other trees but when there are CAP aircraft up its verry vulnerable (not weak but vulnerable)
they do but most egregious it the ka52 and 50 they take way more hits than later ah1s or even z10
Source ?
Why is it okay for NATO to have UFOs while RU is stuck with flying boats ?
Two questions that can be answered with the same sentence. You aren’t allowed to be the best at everything, that’s what balance is.
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The fact that the Soviet side is winning the top rank has already been said by many bloggers on Youtube and even proved it. Everyone has already said this. That’s why I’m finishing off the rest of the premium days and taking a break from the game until they introduce at least some kind of balance.
Maybe because they have to dodge the best SPAA in the game while hunting jet at the same time?
do Russian ever have to do things like this at the same times?
even F-15E have dodge pantsir and worry about jet
what SU-34 has to put into account when flying?
only enemy jet
You’re on the AF for 15s at most no SU-34 is gonna be staring at the airfield when he could be throwing KH-38s
Actually you should be punished for being a CAS player but thats another issue
Yeah there is its called spawn your fucking fighter and throw an AMRAAM at his skull idiot
Please highlight where i said the words “never spawn CAS” i think you need to get your head checked you’re clearly unwell making up fictional scenarios in your mind
Am i anton yudinetsev now?
Helis are a non threat and guess what you can do
Dive to the deck chuck an AMRAAM at the Su-34 then climb to orbit and go back to being a CASbaby
Because its called a slippery slope you fucking idiot if they gave brimstones FNF then russia would get something even more broken in return and then NATO would cry again and get something even more broken all while SPAA stays the same, the KH-38 being added was a mistake you have to deal with and actually didn’t you say earlier i should “adress the problem” well heres how to adress it shut the fuck up until everyone gets better SPAA and then you can get your fancy 16 FNF missiles because as it stands currently there is zero counter if it were to be added
Pretending Pantsir pose a threat to the new jets.
Pansir broke the game and it still hasn’t been resolved. It turns out that we will have to take a very long break in the game.
Is it possible to insult your interlocutors on this forum? Have you already insulted me twice or are there no rules here?
Why don’t you try to do CAP against Russia everyday like i did and come back to tell me otherwise I wanna see if it changes your opinion
I hunted CAS before them lot of times but never before need so much effort as Russia recently.
Actualy it does pose a threat but I remember your posts from few years back and you are still a denier that anything russian is op…
TWS mode and you throw a missile at the jet gg’s if he is high and in 10 km range easy kill unless he turns cold and dives to the ground…
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It seems to me that you are deliberately creating a conflict here with insults so that the topic will be closed. So don’t write to me or reply to my posts anymore.
NGL, this is the most brain-dead argument I have seen in a while on this site.
Ah well, I will just mute OP and save my brain cells
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