Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

no, he will claims that relikt and kontakt shouldnt supposed to eat APFSDS

Lol you can just tell how shocked they are that I’m not a fanatic like they were projecting
Of course I wouldn’t mind, it would be cool. They’re not that good against APFSDS though, and NATO darts are better than that against ERA

there you go lmao, i didnt put a word in his mouth he literally said Relikt and Kontakt-5 cant stop APFSDS

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he literally said Relikt and Kontakt-5 cant stop APFSDS

sick minds

Just opened my phone to this utterly diabolical take, are we talking about the same 2A7 here?

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They aren’t. In fact, Kontact 5 is missing about 30mm protection vs kinetic projectiles.

And if I recall correctly, Relict is under preforming by about 80mms vs kinetic.

Relict was especially designed with kinetic protection in mind.

sorry to burst your bubble, but that was the primary reason why relikt and kontakt-5 existed. to stop KE if it wasnt for that why would russia spent billion of rubles to develop them instead of just sticking with kontakt-1

You have 0 games played in Relikt-equipped tanks.

Claiming that M1 is the best is wild as well, that’s why I haven’t said it. You’re wrong yet again.
Claiming that M1 is worse than Merkava and CR2s is also wild, which sadly for you, you indeed said.

Forum moaners wouldn’t agree with you. That’s why you had few threads daily about how shit Sparrows are and how brokenly OP ERs are at the same time.

I said look at the performance in the end
Also i just saw u are 2s38 player ifc u dont want it to go up in br u main russia and germany u dont even know what suffering looks like lol
Thats why u think 2s38 isnt op cuz u dont know how to play the game u are used too op tanks
Give 2s38 to an italy japan and israel mains and see how “not op” this thing is
With 2s38 u have so much fire power u can front pen tt mbts
Gid ur new ur not even level 100
Have a good day

I mean, not necessarily… many topics are subject to subjectivity, it’s only natural that there’s disagreement born out of personal opinions, but…

I can’t think of one single way in which any Russian tank may be superior than Leopard 2A7V xD.

Russian tanks’ primary strengths rely on their armor protection- that’s what they are mostly better at than most other tanks…

But Leopard 2A7V has not only the typical NATO mobility, gun dynamics and firepower advantages; but ALSO the signature Russian tank armor protection, backed up, on top of that, with an interior fully coated in spall liners.

People debate whether Russian tanks or the Abrams is better… and it’s an understandable debate because both have strengths and weaknesses. But Leopard 2A7V literally has ALL of the strengths of both with NONE of the weaknesses of either.

Even with artificial armor and acceleration nerfs, Leopard 2A7V is the ultimate combination of primary and soft factors; the perfect mix of protection, mobility and firepower.

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bro trust me played it once and you’ll surely suck your words back if you notice from my battles it only performed well in SImulation take a guess why

Do it then. let us see your “OP” performance. i didnt ask much just 200 battles

Welp, CR2E might be better

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I main Italy and Russia…

I main Italy

I main Italy

I main Italy

lmao says the israeli main, dont you know how hard it is to have armour covers your whole front, while having LWS, Gen 3 thermal in 11.0 MBT and -9 degree of gun depression?

Unlike soviet mains with their -5 degree of gun depression, Gen 1 thermal at 11.3, short rod 3BM42 bias you wont understand

CR2E is still plagued by the small ready rack, gun handling and ammo being scattered throughout the hull. It’s one of the best CR2s though.

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Let’s break this down,
The Challenger 2E has:
The same reload
The same mobility
Worse armour
Worse ready rack
Worse ammo storage
The same thermal quality
Worse dart (by a long margin)
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So it’s barely on par with an abrams, the fact you think it may be better is laughable

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Currently the best for the META but i prefer how the BN plays and looks honestly

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The only thing it has over the M1 are spall liners.

I like it as well because of it’s APS, it makes it a pretty special vehicle in my opinion.