technicly they are. you still can launch them into ground, they are able to relock
I just use your same logic here but to my surprise you use different logic when it not Russian for whatever reasons
Shtter flight performance = Better air to ground for make them good
and since Tornado GR4 is ways worse than SU-34 in everyways they should deserve better air to ground weapons to make them good
you suddenly use different standard lol
GR4? they definitely do
dog sht flight performance no radar and ARH man
pffff you going to need airliner size put X16KH in one planes
With fully historical Brimstones ? No they don’t.
I already told you this.
Same applies to SM3.
At least it will be a visual confirmation you’re flying a jumbo jet.
kh are balanced because one day gaijin might add loal brimstones
The absolute state.
We don’t even have longbows yet when they should have been added years ago. We’ll be lucky to have simple FnF brimstones in 2 years, LOAL will likely never be added unless Russia gets it first
Just like SU-34 and SU-25 don’t face other SPAA even now
“If it can ofc”
Remember, you were trying to say they would need to face Pantsir, like it could even touch them with their upgraded ammo.
We already have fake vehicles in the game, so everything is possible.
It should never be added in general, until SPAA gets vastly better for all nations.
Just like other SPAA can’t touch SU-34 and SU-25
hmm yeah but still you need to increase size of SU-25 like three times or more to put X16KH-38 and since this game still have rule of physic unlike Ace Combat no ways you can’t put X16 KH-38 on SU-25 like X15 on Tornado without increases size and you gonna need size of heavy bomber to do that
And they don’t have these lol
I’m sure that will be their argument. Mark my words, we’ll get gimped longbows and brimstones with a simple LOBL guidance (hard coded to do non lethal hits), and they’ll use those to justify adding the absolute best overturned spaa to Russia.
That’s literally what they did with spikes and the pantsir.
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Good. CAS doesn’t need buffs.
I don’t believe you.
The Pantsir was added shortly after Britain got Harrier Gr7 that made RU main taste their own medicine after they enjoy CAS people nonstop with MiG-27K for very long
and sure, they don’t like it and crying that they need better SPAA do deal with GR7
and Gaijin give them Pantsir shortly after they suffer too much from GR7 (like one every three match because you rarely see people playing Britain lol)
They already said they wanted to add much better sam to all nations including Russia (which is already too strong compared to NATO cas).
And like I said this is literally what they did with pantsir and spikes so…
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I never claimed otherwise.
You tried to pull the Pantsir-card like those planes would even care about it lol.
That’s long gone as materializing something that never existed is basically breaking every rule possible.
Crying surely didn’t help them get M247 equivalent, right ?
and did SU-34/25SM3 care about other SPAA what wrong if other able to do the same?
like it or not
SU-25SM3 can’t carry X16 KH-38
Tornado GR4 can carry X15 Brimstone
You can deny all you like but there is no prove SU-25SM3 can carry X16 KH-38
But there are prove Tornado GR4 can carry X15 Brimstone
That the real fact that even you pull God from nine realms you still can’t deny
(you can prove me otherwise if and find document about X16 KH-38 on SU-25)
Yeah they got Pantsir instead.
You clearly don’t understand what I was trying to say.
It’s already being said that proving anything isn’t needed as we have totally fake vehicles in the game.
Stuff has already been proven to be non-existent and is still in the game, so as I said, there’s no need for that.
Pantsir isn’t at ~8.3 though.
Hm sure you never deny that KH-38 carrier doesn’t care about SPAA
but seem you don’t really want other to be able to beat Pantsir easily like SU-34 done to other SPAA for some Russia Suffer reasons.
fake vehicle that some still in blueprint prototype test and somewhat exist in some part?
what do you want? total non-exist things like
CFA-44 or ADFX-02?
sure, i don’t like fake vehicle but still there are some acceptable if it somewhat exist irl like being prototype or some test.
And I’m not talking about 8.3
I’m just acknowledging the fact that planes with accurate Brimstones wouldn’t care about Pantsir.
Neither SM3 nor KHs are fake.
You will only change their carriable amount.
And you were saying that Gaijin gives RU best AA to deal with CAS which is simply untrue.
Yes, it is. RU has the best AA in the game — that’s simply a fact.
And regarding the Su-34: With its FNF missiles, it can take out NATO SPAA, like the FlakRakRad, from beyond their effective range. There’s literally nothing you can do to counter that.
At the same time, this isn’t possible with the Brimstone missiles. You need to be both within range and have a clear line of sight for the Brimstone to hit effectively.
It still stands:
- Best CAS in GRB: Su-34
- Best helicopter in GRB: Ka-52
- Best SPAA in GRB: Pantsir
Russia remains the undisputed meta king.
On top of that, Russian tanks are absolutely top-tier without being over-the-top broken. So, in all four aspects — CAS, helicopters, SPAA, and tanks — Russia dominates as king.
It’s a game, not some nation flex competition.
I really don’t see any issue with either giving other nations competitive SPAA or simply changing the FNF missiles to Laser + IOG like the other nations have.
The problem could be solved so easily that way.
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Exactly just like KH-38 against ADATS
Which they can’t? lol maybe six but amounts like Brimstone on Tornado? Impossible and this is realistic game (well what left of it) not Harry Potter game
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Oh no don’t mention tanks they gonna pull their another suffering card
“Leopard2/strv122”
And ignore other tanks that exist.