The Pantsir was added shortly after Britain got Harrier Gr7 that made RU main taste their own medicine after they enjoy CAS people nonstop with MiG-27K for very long
and sure, they don’t like it and crying that they need better SPAA do deal with GR7
and Gaijin give them Pantsir shortly after they suffer too much from GR7 (like one every three match because you rarely see people playing Britain lol)
They already said they wanted to add much better sam to all nations including Russia (which is already too strong compared to NATO cas).
And like I said this is literally what they did with pantsir and spikes so…
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I never claimed otherwise.
You tried to pull the Pantsir-card like those planes would even care about it lol.
That’s long gone as materializing something that never existed is basically breaking every rule possible.
Crying surely didn’t help them get M247 equivalent, right ?
and did SU-34/25SM3 care about other SPAA what wrong if other able to do the same?
like it or not
SU-25SM3 can’t carry X16 KH-38
Tornado GR4 can carry X15 Brimstone
You can deny all you like but there is no prove SU-25SM3 can carry X16 KH-38
But there are prove Tornado GR4 can carry X15 Brimstone
That the real fact that even you pull God from nine realms you still can’t deny
(you can prove me otherwise if and find document about X16 KH-38 on SU-25)
Yeah they got Pantsir instead.
You clearly don’t understand what I was trying to say.
It’s already being said that proving anything isn’t needed as we have totally fake vehicles in the game.
Stuff has already been proven to be non-existent and is still in the game, so as I said, there’s no need for that.
Pantsir isn’t at ~8.3 though.
Hm sure you never deny that KH-38 carrier doesn’t care about SPAA
but seem you don’t really want other to be able to beat Pantsir easily like SU-34 done to other SPAA for some Russia Suffer reasons.
fake vehicle that some still in blueprint prototype test and somewhat exist in some part?
what do you want? total non-exist things like
CFA-44 or ADFX-02?
sure, i don’t like fake vehicle but still there are some acceptable if it somewhat exist irl like being prototype or some test.
And I’m not talking about 8.3
I’m just acknowledging the fact that planes with accurate Brimstones wouldn’t care about Pantsir.
Neither SM3 nor KHs are fake.
You will only change their carriable amount.
And you were saying that Gaijin gives RU best AA to deal with CAS which is simply untrue.
Yes, it is. RU has the best AA in the game — that’s simply a fact.
And regarding the Su-34: With its FNF missiles, it can take out NATO SPAA, like the FlakRakRad, from beyond their effective range. There’s literally nothing you can do to counter that.
At the same time, this isn’t possible with the Brimstone missiles. You need to be both within range and have a clear line of sight for the Brimstone to hit effectively.
It still stands:
- Best CAS in GRB: Su-34
- Best helicopter in GRB: Ka-52
- Best SPAA in GRB: Pantsir
Russia remains the undisputed meta king.
On top of that, Russian tanks are absolutely top-tier without being over-the-top broken. So, in all four aspects — CAS, helicopters, SPAA, and tanks — Russia dominates as king.
It’s a game, not some nation flex competition.
I really don’t see any issue with either giving other nations competitive SPAA or simply changing the FNF missiles to Laser + IOG like the other nations have.
The problem could be solved so easily that way.
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Exactly just like KH-38 against ADATS
Which they can’t? lol maybe six but amounts like Brimstone on Tornado? Impossible and this is realistic game (well what left of it) not Harry Potter game
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Oh no don’t mention tanks they gonna pull their another suffering card
“Leopard2/strv122”
And ignore other tanks that exist.
Having clear line of sight just for a few seconds means you’re also uncounterable.
Misspelled Rafale.
You also forgot to mention that their CAP is bottom of the barrel.
Depends on the situation.
Tiger and the Israeli one are up there with Kamovs.
Exactly, so Pantsir is a non-issue.
I already told you that reality and laws of physics have already been broken.
I don’t know why you want special rules for RU stuff only.
LMAO!! special rule?
It still within the capability of Brimstone irl it not magic
But you want non sense Russian magic to counter it lol
It not even a rule
It just what hardware capable of
I’m not talking about Brimstones dude.
We already have fake nonsense in the game.
The situation is pretty clear:
- Su-34: Lock the target, fire the missile, and disengage. The missile guides itself to the target. No risk for the pilot.
- EF2000: Lock the target, fire the missile — but the pilot must maintain line of sight until impact. This makes the pilot much more exposed to SPAA fire.
That’s a massive difference.
On top of that, the VT1 is way slower than the KH-38MT and becomes useless beyond 12 km range. What’s so hard to understand about the fact that the Su-34 can kill SPAA from outside their effective range?
Honestly, I don’t even know why anyone bothers discussing with MotorolaCRO. He’s just a Russian-meta player who defends his favorite nation to the death. Having a serious discussion with him is basically impossible.
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It amused me really
It like see how hypocrites people can be (and to kill some times)
I just use his logic on Tornado GR4
And tbh I’m surprised how he use different standard for GR4 just because it has more Brimstone.
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You don’t know how IOG works, right ?
Unlike you I’ve grinded out most nations and just want a balanced game.
Doesn’t sound like one despite it
Even if all Brimstone are LOAL so what? at least it not only one nation have them it “Three” nation that have it
and three nation stomping better than one does
That would be much more unbalanced than the current situation.
Now non-RU at least have much better CAP that can counter Su-34.
In your hypothetical scenario all those three nations (two of which are the worst ones in the game) would have the best CAS and would have the best CAP to defend/kill.
I also want a game that works well for every nation, not just one. It’s really simple: either give FNF missiles to all nations or remove them entirely.
And take a wild guess — which jet and helicopter do you think those two players were using?
And this is not just a one-time thing… I can send you a screenshot from every match, and in every single one, the top players are either Su-34 or Ka-52 users. Every. Single. Match.
Next Game:
And again - take a wild guess!
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