Exactly
Good thing you shouldn’t be flying 2nd gen aircraft at pantsir BRs
Its not literally just pull hard when you see the missile coming in and its guaranteed to miss because of how SACLOS missiles lose 90% of their maneuverability beyond 10km
Good it shouldn’t be it would be dumb to have the only sort of counter to CAS be behind a 900sp wall
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From my experience most helicopters are unrealistically durable.
Hah like facing KH-38 and Pantsir combo are fun
yay so fun that it took me to go air spawn camping them to stop KH-38 from killing my teammate
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I think you just suck theres an Airfield you can spawn on instead you know, overall though you just suffer from being a terminal one nation main
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Oh, right — because airfield AA is just so amazing, right? Spoiler: It’s not.
Most of the time, jets don’t care about airfield AA at all. They can just fire their missiles from outside its range and stay completely safe. So no, spawning on the airfield isn’t a magical solution. It doesn’t change the fact that the current meta is heavily skewed and completely broken.
And honestly? I think you’re just a forum troll with zero actual game experience. If you had even a shred of understanding of how the game plays out at top tier, you’d know exactly what I’m talking about.
But clearly, you don’t.
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Honestly, I just don’t understand why some people feel the need to so vehemently defend this situation.
At the end of the day, War Thunder is a game. Games are supposed to be about having fun and creating a balanced, competitive experience for players. But right now, it feels like some players are more concerned with turning it into a “which nation is better” contest.
It’s not supposed to be a national ego competition where one nation’s vehicles are constantly superior across every category. This isn’t about real-world politics or military pride — it’s about game balance and fun gameplay.
Right now, for a lot of players, especially those playing non-Russian nations, it’s neither fair nor fun. You get wiped out by unstoppable combos of Russian vehicles, and when you point out the obvious imbalance, you get dismissed with “it’s realistic” or “skill issue.”
No — it’s not a skill issue. It’s not fun to spawn into a match and get deleted by a Pantsir within seconds.
It’s not fun to deal with helicopters that tank multiple hits or jets that fire missiles from beyond AA range without counterplay.
And it’s not fun to see your team completely lose control of the battlefield the moment 1-2 SU-34s or Ka-52s show up.
People defending this broken meta need to take a step back and ask themselves:
- Is this really fun for everyone?
- Would they enjoy facing these vehicles on the other side?
Because right now, War Thunder doesn’t feel like a tactical war game — it feels like you’re stuck in a scripted loss the moment the enemy team spawns the right combination of Russian vehicles.
That’s not balance. That’s not fun. That’s not what War Thunder should be.
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Not when you had to do CAP job while dodging this bastard at the same times
as CAP players who force do that job most of the times it annoying as hell tell me it balances while Russian don’t have to do both at same times.
Here my typical schedule as CAP players against Russia
-Spawn light tank
-Get around 3 scout assists
-J out of the tanks
-Spawn Gripen
-Get already get fire upon by Pantsir right after spawn
-Dodging incoming missile while trying to kill SU-34 at the same times
-Keep dodging while moving forward
-Finally get them
-Keep dodging until another one spawn
-Repeat
Yeah, fair and balance Russian suffer Eurofighter OP don’t deseve anything
How is airfield AA even relevant its your fault if you’re spawning CAS while theres CAP up
Again how is this relevant its just telling me you suck just dont spawn CAS without ARH missiles if the enemy has CAP up its that simple
I have more than 2x the number of games played than you the only difference is i don’t bash my head against the toptier ground wall 24/7 and i dont pretend that its just the Su-34 thats an issue
Buddy you’re clearly new here if you think im a forum troll theres a lot worse people here
Bro you’re literally a german main you have the best tank in the game the 2nd best SPAA in the game and the 2nd best heli in the game the only thing you dont have is a broken CAS plane like everyone else
Hah big surprise when other western tanks have frontal armor to match Russia hah.
yeah, when Russian have those armor it’s fine when German had one instantly become best that beat Russia?
HQ-17
ITO-90M
then Flarakrad
AH-60 with X16 spike
Tiger HAD block 2
AH-129D
then Tiger UHT
and Damage on those ATGM are too low
China enjoyers laughing at all this helicopter talk, knowing they have the one vehicle that can delete helicopters without anything the helicopter can do about it (and no, the Spike is rubbish in comparison). They can hide behind mountains. They can run back to their helipad. They can go to the ends of the Earth. But the QN506 will find them and delete them. Need more vehicles like this in the game.
If you think its armour alone that makes tanks good then fucking lmao
The leopard 2A7 and its copies have far better gun handling, spall liners that actually do something unlike the T-90M or chally liners, actual mobility, a far far better shell and a better reload
Lmao what its literally just a TOR both the TOR and HQ-17 arent good SPAA they’re pretty bad
3rd best then granted ive literally not seen someone spawn an ITO in 3 months i almost forgot it existed
Why do you think i said 2nd best, the AH-60 with spikes is the best heli ingame
Pars are better than Spikes, Spikes are only better when you have 16 of them like the AH-60
Only 8 Spikes its worse the Pars are almost twice as fast as Spikes with a larger warhead as well
Too bad people complained and it got removed from one of the Sim matchmakers which sucks its now just back to heli spam there
I always laugh that people who have never used the Tor go on about ‘ohhh it can trackkk two targets at onceee huehuehue’, but they ignore the fact that the missiles this thing fires let off more smoke than a brothel on a Sunday. When this thing fires, it alters the weather patterns in the local area. CAS need their eye checked if they can’t see this thing coming. China has some of the best SPAA in the game, but that doesn’t include the Tor or HQ, that’s for sure.
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Yeah the PGZ09A and Antelope are pretty good the Tors however are just garbage im suprised they didn’t just make the Tor an event vehicle and give china the HQ-17 immediately then again china will have the best spaa eventually with the 625E
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Not to mention our boy the WZ305. I just got around to unlocking the Antelope since I’m playing the T-80 event vehicle. Not really impressed with no radar, etc. But I’m still stock. Will help to have thermals.
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Tell me you’ve never played one of these without telling me you’ve never played it.
If you think the helis should disintegrate from a high velocity AP tungsten rod, you are, far from correct, it’d leave a hole through whatever it passes through, and if that is simply fuselage, you didn’t damage a damn thing.
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It does get a track radar and IRST so you can kinda just scan the sky spamming lock radar or just stare at the enemy airspawn until something pops in
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And? yeah, i know it better than Russian tanks but what wrong with it?
Noone can receive better stuff than Russian here? there like Russian love to say before 2A7V
“Learn how to aim weak spot”
yeah it work on Leopard and strv 122 too
It is TOR with Thermal and 15KM pretty much enhance performance version of it with TWS
still not on Pantsir level but still strong
You forget autocannon Turret and Mistral for self defense
Tiger UHT have only Stinger to rely on PARS3 are stronger sure but still dog sht damage like the rest