Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

Mavericks are vastly inferior to Kh38
Pantsir is the perfect vehicle to take out Mavs
Pantsir forces CAP jets to stay out of effective Fox 3 range, giving plenty of room to Kh38 slingers
Kh38 is also an extremely strong anti-heli weapon
(because russian mains will probably argue that Apache is totally OP)

It’s not even close

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I personally don’t really care.

Some things in the game will be better than others. You outplay the player, not their kit.

A2G loadout is far less absurd than Kh-38s in a vacuum, and Kh-38s are completely stupid and the focus of this thread (well, the only legitimate focus of this thread). No, Mavericks are not the same due to seeker and speed differences and the gap gets even wider when you compare SPAAs ability to intercept incoming missiles.

That there are less threads about the F-15 than the Su-34 regarding GRB should be kinda telling, and everyone has to deflect to something non-comparable like Mavericks, A-10s in lower tiers and AIM-120s to cover for Kh-38 cheese.

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This. The ADATS doesn’t have smokes and is not even able to maintain a lock on an incoming Kh38, burning or not.
And you can’t even automatically find it even if your pathetic radar sees it, you have to use your eyeballs or gen 1 thermals
Genuinely the worst balance i’ve seen in any game ever

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That there are less threads about the F-15 than the Su-34 regarding GRB should be kinda telling, and everyone has to deflect to something non-comparable like Mavericks, A-10s in lower tiers and AIM-120s to cover for Kh-38 cheese.

Nah, it’s just a constant. Constantly the same group of people complaining Russia biased, yet not a peep from them when their kit overpreforms.

And also any Brimstone/AGM-65/AASM carrier with Russian teammate will get absolute advantage compared to another similar carrier in the opposing team.

Their kit isn’t overperforming lmao. F-15E is hard countered in GRB and is teamed with Flankers in ARB. A-10A or C is slow as shit and easy CAP food.
A10C can probably barely make it to the ground before 95ya6 reaches it

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Being teamed with the F15E doesn’t make the flanker any better. Doesn’t make the game any better for them.

What kind of argument is that? If anything, it shows you’re biased and only care about the disadvantages you face.

God damn the spoonfeeding y’all need is unreal.
Can you see how a F15E would be a monster if teamed with Russia?
Then you should be able to see how a Flanker teamed with NATO wouldn’t suffer as much.

And why would I want to be teamed with a plane that has to do less to get kills than I do?

It just means less kills for me.

It’s easy to outplay F15E players because they’re most commonly the brainlets in TT ARB. Predictable. But unlike the F15E player, those playing against them in a 29/27/J10/J11/MICA plane have to actually apply some skill. Their hands are not held.

I think you confuse me for asking my hand to be held. I specifically play the harder to play planes because it’s far more fun and rewarding to do well in them.

I’m simply making the arguments I am making so that you make fallacious counter arguments such as “the SU27 doesn’t suffer because he has the F15E on his team too”, where you all but highlight that one is stronger than the other.

Because if you have a team of Flankers and a team of F15s and the 15s are soooo much better like you said, then the Flankers will be vaporized in 3 minutes, which means you end up fighting 1v2, then 1v3, 1v4 and so on, and even an amazing player like you will perform less well than if you’re doing the sealclubbing.

Exactly like how US teams get vaporized in 3 minutes so they end up fighting 1v2, 1v3 etc… but that’s totally different teehee it’s totally just the players’ fault.

But if you have mixed team then the outcome isn’t nearly as obvious. Your F15s can counter theirs giving you room to maneuver and use your jet better, so you have a better time. It’s really not complicated.

I specifically play the harder to play planes

Lmfao yeah that’s why you main Russia with their Pantsir, Kh38, 90m BVM… Just like the other guy you’re less honorable than a literal cheater.

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Exactly like how US teams get vaporized in 3 minutes so they end up fighting 1v2, 1v3 etc… but that’s totally different teehee it’s totally just the players’ fault.

Half the average US GRB team is gone within 5 minutes because they have an AIM and a clickbait. That’s on Gaijin for making top tier accessible via $$.

And you got got, it’s okay, you’ll make it to tomorrow. No need for ad hominems.

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Russian teams are also half premium and they don’t get vaporized… So the only possible causes are a) the vehicles are shit or b) the players are shit.
You look at Pantsir vs ADATS and think “yeah it’s b)”
You look at Ka52 vs Apache and think “yeah it’s b)”
You look at Su34 vs F15E and think “yeah it’s b)”

So yeah, ad homs are warranted against players that are beneath even cheaters

Acting like Russia is an “I win” button, when neither of their 2 top tier MBTs are meta is quite a funny take.

@Gotchaツ I wouldn’t bother arguing with this dude, he’s so bias and frustrating to argue with. Any valid point will be dismissed because brussian rias, and stuff.

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So yeah, ad homs are warranted against players that are beneath even cheaters

I guess me doing well in other nations is also me being lower than a cheater 🥲

Please. You only play spoonfed shit like Russia and Sweden or the iranian F14 (wheeze). Crazy how easy mode trash gets so arrogant and spoiled.

Hope you recover from that trouncing in the other thread from what, weeks ago? Ty for the free rent

I wouldn’t bother arguing with this dude, he’s so bias and frustrating to argue with. Any valid point will be dismissed because brussian rias, and stuff.

Just had to diminish his argument by having him invalidate it himself by setting him up for a fallacy he’d obviously walk right into.

I responded to your message with a proper argument, but like every other dishonest shitter you cherrypick 1/10th of it to avoid responding to it. Pathetic

When you say stuff like

You’re exaggerating, AIM120 are not that good and neither are their airframes. They’re also not that hard to defeat.

It’s kinda hard to take you as having good faith.

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Fakour90 is harder to defeat than AIM120 and going Mach 2 requires being very high alt which makes you an easy target for the enemy team. The meta is going 1.2-1.4 just below contrails.
And again I recognize that the AIM 120 and its carriers like Typhoon are superior, I’m saying they’re not much better.
Meanwhile russian mains literally believe that russian tanks are subpar. Typical echo chamber behavior.

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