Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

And where’s the equivalent in 8 other nations?
Pantsir has TOR as well.

Also, where are 10.7 planes for other nations that have 6x IR FnFs ?
You people like to cry about crap only if it’s in the USSR tree.

High pen=op, duh

Sweden had one at 8.7, but Gaijin removed the HE-VT.

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Yeah it’s such a game changer, it should be at 12.0.
3BM42 with 7.1s reload is a better combo in most situations anyways, but they fail to realize that.

That thing went from VEAK to WEAK.

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I would take chapparal on cuz it much better against planes but ok

Great armor
Great engine
And best apfsds in the game
In fricking 10.7 wth

It really depends what the plane is doing.

It’s basically a 80B with no thermals, HMG and a much longer reload. Shell is nice but do you need it that much when you already have 3BM42 ?

What BR do you want it to be ?

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It has better UFP armor and the mantlet eats shots like crazy. T-80BV level armor, not T-80B. Speaking of the T-80BV we have in game is fake.

But I think it’s balanced at 10.7. 10 second reload which is well known to everybody means the second you fire your gun you get pushed in a CQB scenario. And you can’t snipe due to terrible gun depression and targeting speed.

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40mm has better range and damage and AHEAD is still a little buggy even after the fix. I’ve used AHEAD on PUMA VJTF and it’s pretty useless except at very close range.

Right, but it doesn’t make any difference when being shot at by DM23 and similarly powerful shells.

I haven’t seen many of those mantlet shots personally though.

In my opinion that shell penetration doesn’t really make up for that extra 2.9s reload.
It’s a weird tank to be honest, it can’t brawl because of the reload and it can’t really snipe due to subpar gun depression and having no thermals surely doesn’t help.

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11.3
Merkava 3 is on 11.3 it has worse shell(ofc)
No armor at all
Bad engine compare to other in that br
Sure it has 1 gen thermals its kinda useless

Merkava should either get 5s reload or move down in BR.

292 should never be a single BR step below AIM or M1A2 though.

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Sabra is 4 BRs lower but has same firepower, just less mobile and protection is poor on both but Merkava is a bit better. I don’t think the Merkava should be the same BR as the T-90A but it should get a 5 second reload to compete with the M1A1 which is simply better at the same BR.

The Ircm only works from a 30° angle from behind.

Please explain to me, how my Mi-24D with Ircm all over, exhaust vents, and actively dropping flares gets hit by a Stinger???

Yeah real imbalance, against the Russian vehicles.

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Very incorrect

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If CR2, Ariete and Merkavas can be 12.0, so should those two Abrams including the Clickbait be.

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Really good question, doesn’t the Stinger have IRCCM?
When trying to lock a Ka-52 from any angle with a 9M, it doesn’t work. Could’ve sworn the 9M has IRCCM as well.
I seem to remember different angles from the front/sides the Su-39 that I was also able to not lock.
The Mi-24P in the German tree ALSO has IRCM, but it seems to not work as well.

Could it be that IRCM is really only functioning for certain aircraft…? If so, the point stands.

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T80 hull with amazing turret armor an pen agianst m1 abrams that doesnt even have 400 pen

Just sad

Giving 5s reload to M1A1 without doing the same to Merkavas is egregious.
I have no idea why it “needed” reload buff in the first place.

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I think our MANPADS in the game have much stronger IRCCM than missiles like 9M or R-73.
I don’t think I ever seen Stinger getting flared while using them, meanwhile defeating 9M/R-73 is pretty common.

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Correct my guy! The Su-34 should be 14.0 or 13.7

Interesting.

wonder if anyone here might know the difference in the 9M IRCCM vs a MANPAD one. Info probably easy to find on MANPADS, 9M maybe not so much.

Same, only time my stingers fail is too much G

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