No, it still has a nuke shell with better ballistics than any tank save the Centurions at it’s BR. Oh and a 5 sec reload.
It might shock you but some people in this game actually want some degree of realism in the game, like not fighting SPHs from the year 2000 in WW2 tanks, especially when there is zero reason for them to be there given their capabilities.
And other people want to play stuff with it’s realistic capabilities. removing IRL functions screws over BOTH for no reason.
1: It would be balanced because then skill would be involved in long range shot, and at short range well it’s a vehicle the size of the house without armor, free kill
2: Then play sim, the game is not meant to be realistic past the potrayal of tanks, the tank combat is extremly unrealistic not just about HOW it happens but how the mechanics are represented, they are many WW2 tank simulator you can play if you want
Not really. try actually reading what I said about it’s ballistics.
But this is devolving into you trying to defend a blatantly OP vehicle when I just used it as an example of haw Gaijin dose a poor job on both balance and realism, I have zero idea why this turned into a “PZH 2000 not OP” cope session.
lets stop de-railing the thread.
Yes and I disagree the balistic is what makes it over-powered, it’s not the only artillery with good balistic, like the AUF1 or bkan, which are 7.0 and 6.7 respectivly
And I told you the age of a tank is completly irrelevent on the realism part, the date of creation is just a number, should the IS5 be at a higher br than the IS3 because it has a bigger number too?
oh i dont know, maybe the world is bigger than simple BR based balancing. maybe some people want… idk… a thing called immersion?
Then play a world war II tank simulator game, plenty of thos, or play sim which is the war thunder alternative
ground sim doesnt rlly fulfill my desire in its current implementation. nor does any other tank game.
can you not accept that people have desires that dont align with yours?
We seem to be missing each others point. Yes some stuff needs to be at lover BRs than historical match making would put it (Me-262s and Meteors would be lower than some Spitfires in that case) my point is why force already OP stuff to lower BRs when it (A) could go up as is to face things of it’s own era and be perfectly fine. and (B) has a bunch of missing features that can be added to make it even more powerful.
Yes, you could nerf the PZH fire rate and shell velocity and remove it’s LRF, etc. but then what’s even the point of adding it?
Yeah, just piss away the thousands of hours and dollars I have already spent in this game because Gaijin decided to add 2000s tech to WW2 ranks… I could tell you what to do with that idea but it would be against forum TOS
Yes I accept that, but maybe that desire just not is in war thunder, like right now I want to play a medival game about running a kingdom, so im gonna play crusader kings III not war thunder
You do realize warthunder WAS a WW2 game when many people started playing right?
Yeah but it was also a plane game, should we delete ground battles because that’s not what war thunder was about at first?
sadly most people dont
so… why?
7.7 technologies are rather not advanced. So the 6.7 tanks are often pretty competitive.
Its not the 7.7 VS 8.7 situation where its obvious that stabs, APFSDS, protection or mobility that 8.7 has is too much for 7.7 to compete.
your argument is just wrong on so many levels bro…
the infrastructure is already present in warthudner. im not gonna ask some rando on the internet to make me a new game when gaijin can easily implement these changes FOR THE BETTER of the game
and frequently destroy each other. Somua as heavy tank of 7.7 SHOUD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be easilly penetrated by anyone shooting it from 6.7. And even so the Tiger 2 has pretty many chances to destroy it, rather by shooting the turret or sides.
But it’s NOT for the better of the game, it’s a step backward in balance and replayability, it would at most be fun has an event, and most people would only play it still if it had a reward at the end
id like to see a trial before i give any weight to such claims
so… Does it tear the random apart?
thouht so…
This post translated:
“I want to only see downtiers, please and thank you gaijin! XOXOXO”
6.7s don’t struggle against 7.7s anyway, especially not a tiger 2 with kwk43