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The 7.0 and 7.3 tanks aren’t significantly stronger than the 6.7 ones, so the fact that 7.3 will be top tier isn’t a big deal. At 7.0–7.3, the only really strong vehicles are the T-44-100 and the IS-3, and that’s basically it. Both of those can be penetrated without much trouble by the King Tiger and the Super Pershing, so I don’t see a problem here.
Obviously, when you have 200+ mm of armor penetration, you can penetrate all 7.7 tanks head-on. But when you face the T32E1 or the Somua, problems can arise. Against them, you’re almost entirely green and can penetrate pretty much anywhere except the upper frontal plate. Meanwhile, the King Tiger can only penetrate the Somua frontally through the commander’s cupola or slightly below the gun, into a very specific weak spot. The King Tiger reloads in 9.8 seconds, while the Somua reloads in 4 seconds. The T32E1 is almost impenetrable from the front for the King Tiger.
Your armor is less effective in full uptiers and more effective in full down tiers. Correct.
I suggest not trying to frontally brawl in your tank when you are in a full uptier.
6.7 gets some of the easiest full uptiers in the entire game.
Usually a heavy tank fighting a heavy tank 1 whole BR above it is a death sentence. However, thanks to the power of the long '88, this is what you can do to a Somua at 500 metres:
Surblinde? No problem.
Surbaisse? I mean…
Sure, they have other advantages. Mobility and reload speed above all. They should have those advantages, otherwise how could they be 1 whole BR above you?
Same thing goes for other nations. IS-6 can be pretty scary if it’s not facing you head-on. If it is, though…
Look, I’ve been playing German 6.7 at 7.0 - 8.0 for a long time now, and even in 8.0 lobbies you can decimate the enemy team. How many heavy tanks can say the same thing?
This is a nuke in an 8.0 match:
It includes two Somua kills, and sniping a Foch’s cupola to get the OHK thanks to APHE magic.
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this just means you have to be more careful, the game allow for impossible possibilities of action and you are not stuck in a head on
I personally have no problem as tiger 2 player like even at 7.7 br range u can easy kill all enemy opponent like only problem u can counter as tiger 2 is your own idiotic choice am i wrong ?
I killed many times as tiger 2h frontally İs-4m
All I’m seeing from those screenshots is that you can kill these heavy tanks frontally. You just have to be careful about your positioning. You also have a much better reload than them.
I strongly recommend you take a look at the video I’ve posted and then come here and tell me that a Tiger II can’t fight in that BR bracket.
Cool. Now show this but with those 7.7 heavies vs 8.7 rounds
And the tiger 2 vs US 76 and Russian 85
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İ mean there will be always a power creep at every br no matter where u look at it
It is unfathomable to me how you can literally present a player with video evidence that something can indeed be done, and they will keep insisting that it simply cannot be done. There is constant externalisation going on. Very few players ever stop and think, maybe I need to reconsider my position and work on my own skills instead.
Regardless of if they can pen frontally, frontally engaging a heavy tank that is 1.0br above you is not exactly optimal.
Even in downtiers i run my heavies along flanks for the most part. Even with armor, i would rather not risk it. Plus makes taking out the enemy much easier.
Right, which is why I posted the video from the match as well. Positioning matters a lot in this game, but that wasn’t the point I was making.
My point is that, if the Tiger II player fucks up and ends up frontally facing a tank 1 whole BR above it, it can still win the engagement and kill the enemy. Not many heavy tanks can say the same thing. The gun is simply exceptional on the Tiger II and enables it to do things even in uptiers that would otherwise not be possible.
Everything else you say is correct, survivability onion, flank etc etc. But really the Tiger II is incredibly forgiving to play in uptiers, because the gun stays competitive.
Maybe he just needs one of those experiences where he realizes what he had.
Give him a dozen 4.7-5.7 matches in the churchill mk7.
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And those are also found at or almost same br as the tiger 2 not a full br lower, there you have the 75 jumbo that each time that it faces a tiger 2 H is like a boss battle
Jumbo 75 sees the very same Tiger II in full uptiers…
Like I said. 6.7 has some of the easiest full uptiers of the whole game. They heavily decompressed this area in 2023 and it is a joy to play that BR. Though at some point they really need to take it away from some of the 5.7s, which are very oppressed by it.
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Yeah. 6.7 is pretty fun.
US has a stacked line up if you have the tanks. But the jagdtiger is one the more chill tanks to play around there. Very nice.
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The joy of bonking M103s with it. So good lol.