Semovente Antiaereo su Fiat 1100 L.M.R. and 508 C.M. (or 1100 C.M.), both are good

[Would you like to see this in-game?]
  • Yes both
  • Yes, just the 1100 L.M.R.
  • Yes, just the 508 C.M. (or 1100 C.M.)
  • Maybe
  • No

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Semovente Antiaereo su Fiat 1100 L.M.R. e su Fiat 508 C.M. (or 1100 C.M.)


History.

In 1941 the Automobile Workshops of the Royal Army (OARE) of Bologna presented to the Royal Army, upon explicit request, two light anti-aircraft vehicle that could be very fast when (within limits) armored and well armed. The vehicles in question are a sedans car adapted to a van with the rear modified to accommodate a twin machine gun position and a gunner, as well as an unknown number of additional magazines. The vehicles was most likely accepted given that an order of between 50 and 68 units was placed, but at least two were built and tested at the Center for Motorization Studies in Rome. The vehicles was then assigned to the 101st Motorized Division “Trieste” in North Africa to escort the columns of vehicles, and after there is not traces.

Propulsion and armament.

The vehicles weighed 1008 kg (L.M.R.), 880 (C.M.) and was powered by a 1089cc Fiat 108L petrol engine delivering 30 hp which could take the vehicle to a maximum speed of 95 km/h. The tank was 30 liters which gave the vehicle 310 km of autonomy. Furthermore it was 4115 mm long, 1660 mm wide and 1680 mm high (L.M.R.), 4100 mm long and 1520 mm wide for C.M.
Speaking of armament, it was armed with two 8 mm Fiat-Revelli Mod. 14/35 twin machine guns fed with drum magazines. The gun carriage was the same used for the Breda 20/65 Mod. 35 but with an anti-aircraft reticle sight; it had an elevation of -10°/+80° and a 360° firing angle.

Specifications.

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Pictures and drawnings.

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(The last one is an hybrid between the two, because it is a FIAT 1100 L.M.R. Van with the twin support that was mounted on the FIAT 508 Military Van)

Sources.

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LA MECCANIZZAZIONE DELL'ESERCITO FINO AL 1943 tomo I -parte 2 by Biblioteca Militare - Issuu
Fiat 1100 - Wikipedia
Fiat Mod. 14/35 - Wikipedia
ARMI DELLA FANTERIA ITALIANA NELLA SECONDA GUERRA MONDIALE by Biblioteca Militare - Issuu

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Looks cool! Could it also equip twin Breda 20mm guns?

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Twins Breda 20/65? You can try but it can’t equip two, just one.

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seems fun to shoot planes around.

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These things look great! I mean not necessery like as an AA truck, from that point of view they are pretty boring. But as a car they are beautiful. Would still drive around in it if it would not have any armament.

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Too weak armament to be viable in game

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Sorry, but it’s too weak. Light AA mk I and GAZ-AAA (4M) are already painful to use, and this one is even worse, having half the armament and no armour at all compared to the mk I.

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This can be not so shitty for reserve.

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It would by far be the worst vehicle in game and wouldn’t be a good introduction for SPAA.
Not like AS-42 fills that role well but hey…

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it would be even worse than shitty. There are much better choices for BR 1.0 italian AA, like the Fiat-Terni Tripoli (1941).

I know, but they don’t give us anything at that level yet so either we wait until the next century or we propose new stuff now.

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I know that as a vehicle it wouldn’t excel except in speed, but otherwise at least it would be something more even if not as good as a vehicle.

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+1 super cool trucks, both the versions must be added

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I want the version with the two 20mm machine guns, the 8mm ones make the vehicle underperforming

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Too weak? Italy players should be accustomed to this level of suffering. Slap it in a folder with the AS-42, I’d like to see it in game.

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This truck can’t mount 2x 20 mm. They wouldn’t fit in.

Maybe, but can be decent as a reserve I think.

It would be the worst reserve in the game, by a huge margin. I think it should be added as an AI target, on Italian maps.

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This can be a 50% good idea.

How are you going to destroy something with two 8mms? In my opinion it would be completely useless if it were added.

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