What do you think, which ground units are the ‘seal clubber’ vehicles?(In every BR case.)
Why ?
How we balance them?
(Examples: change BR, remove ammo type, change module sensivity, increase repair time… etc)
Let’s discuss.
Seal clubber units definition:’ when certain planes/tanks in certain match-ups tend to dominate over others, and there’s nothing the “seal” can do to stop it.’
Ka-Chi. You are immune to HEAT shells to the hull, you have a ton of crew, and you have good armour.
The only way to balance them is to move them up in BR or change their reload. Removing an ammo type could work for some too.
IMO, seal clubbing only exists at lower tiers due to the lack of player experience.
hmm good point but i argue with you.
‘You are immune to HEAT shells to the hull, you have a ton of crew, and you have good armour’
Basically It’s true if equipped with additional pontons and only from front and back side.
If you shot ka-chi side hull with a HE round which have 10mm pen, the pressure knock out all crew. This also work with HEAT shots.
The T34 in a full downtier.The B1 Ter in a full down tier…er any vehicle in a full down tier.
Maus honestly-
absofuckinglutely hilarious when every game is a nigh full downtier
I think about 7BR is where you finally realise the tier system really doesn’t work.Go down and you stomp ,go up any you get stomped. The only way the player can shine is in an equal tier.Anything else is an unfair advantage. I will admit, I can get 10 plus kills then view the game replays etc and see how I clubbed a crappy enemy, quite soul destroying after what I thought was a good win.
This is a bit of a rogue shout, because the vehicle itself is genuinely mediocre, has huge flaws & shortcomings, and is extremely easy to destroy.
But purely as a Seal Clubber, M-51 - when it’s not frustrating, can be hilarious fun.
You just come up against endless hordes of Tigers / Panthers, and if you find a nice ridge to dig into far away, you can just make their life hell with that lol-pen HEAT round.
Granted, the post pen damage is awful, it often takes multiple rounds to destroy things, and HEAT is really annoying when bushes / fences get in the way. But just that raw ability to punch clean through anything - at any range, is so satisfying and rewarding to good aim.
Cruiser tank A.C. I. This particular tank have broken armor at it’s BR due to volumetric mechanics. Just look at this, it’s almost impossible for a new player to find the spot that can be penetrated from the front. I’m not even talking about full downtiers where it turns match into a absolute mess…
How to balance it? I think it should be at least 3.3, the same as Churchill I, but not 3.7 due to only weak gun (have fun killing KV-1 ZiS-5 on a full uptier).
Angled KV-1B hands down. You go against USSR 24/7 and most of the people playing USSR usually don´t know where to shoot their own tank as they are used to lolpen German tanks anywhere.
It´s a tank I play when I want to get dailies and challenges done quickly.
M4A3 105, the thing used to seal club when it was 2.7 even harder but it’s still strong right now
Churchill VII in a downtier. You are quite literally immune to some of the tanks you fight. Frontally impenetrable even to guns as strong as the KwK 40.
Already done with the Ka-Chi, it went from 1.7 to 2.0. I am also against nerfing vehicles in general. Just my opinion tho.
Basically any heavy tank in downtier will do.
Some of the most notorious examples are KV-1E/B, T26E5 and Ka-Chi (not technically a heavy, but works like one)
There is no real way to change that. These vehicles can only be countered by playing properly which you can’t really expect from low BR enemies. They don’t work nearly as well against people who know what they are doing and if brought up in BR would end up as food for everything else.
Great example of what happens when you decide to bring up in BR a tank that relies entirely on it’s armor is 76 jumbo. Unless it fights it’s full downtier enemies or absolutely clueless ones it is a free kill. It doesn’t do all that well even against stuff of it’s own BR and 6.7 tanks just club it into oblivion. Things like Tiger 2h or Jagdtiger just roll over it like it’s not even there, not even mentioning higher stuff like an IS-3.
