Sea Harrier grind still embarrassingly unusable

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The Sea harrier grind is honestly pathetic. What business does any plane have getting AIM-9Gs at 11.0 and facing 12.0s all the time? gaijin will give some planes all-aspect missiles at 9.7/10.0 but the harrier isn’t allowed to touch an AIM-9L unless it grinds to its 3rd row of modifications.

I honestly want to see a gaijin employee try to get AIM-9Ls from stock grind with the Sea Harrier, see how long it takes when you have completely useless missiles that are easily flared away and can only do rear aspect on a subsonic plane at 11.0-12.0

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which planes that would be?

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part of the reason I haven’t touched either

Totally unrelated: the Thai AV-8S (Late) has stock 9Ls and is pretty fun

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the kurnass gets aim9G as its best missile at 11.3, aim9Gs are one of the better IR missiles at that BR range

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T3 for 9Ls and T2 for Bombs is rather brutal on the SHar. I would recommend ASB if you can once you get bombs unlocked, it makes the grind trivial, but just stick with it. You’ll get them eventually and then you’ll realise 9Ls are just as easy, if not easier to flare than a 9G (at least when using them as a 9L in all-aspect)

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If that gets 9Ls stocks, so should the FRS1 tbh, Sounds like another case of a British jet having a “legacy” stock grind. Jags get nothing stock, FGR2/FG1 I think only have Aim-9Ds and no Skyflash F3 doesnt get any Skyflash, FA2 and F3 Late both dont get IRCCM stock, etc etc

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No, it gets dogfight sparrows too, which are very good radar missiles.
Even disregarding that it’s a lot trickier when you’re subsonic to position yourself for firing the missiles.

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Would definitely recommend switching to sim. Relatively easy, especially with dampening, and you can get tons of rewards.

I got the Aim 9Ls in 2 days after sim

What is definitely needed though is either a re-evaluation of the SHar’s BR (If Gaijin wants continue to be lazy), or work on the SHar’s various problematic features (If Gaijin devs actually want to do their job instead of adding more useless new stuff)

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Yeah… I think i’ve lost count of how many it actually has

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Credits to Matrix for the solid list

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AIM-9G is quite unreliable but maybe still useable missile at 11BR if it is installed on supersonic fuselage.

but sire don’t forget that SHAR are subsonic jet without reheater. And can’t access SARH.
Also, there is Harriers with AIM-9G on 9.7BR.

I tried kurnass one or two matches with 9D stock, I rather playing it than SHAR…

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and thats just HUD. Beyond basically overhauling the HUD and starting again. We also have:

All Harriers:

  • FM is more than likely underperforming
  • Heat Signature is a total mess
  • Sooty Exhaust needs to be removed

SHar:

  • FRS1/FRS1e are missing EEGS (radar gunsight)
  • FRS1 is missing an upgraded RWR (now the AV-8S has that, so should the FRS1)
  • Blue Fox radar might get some QoL buffs in the future (if sources can be found)
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Yeah, the Buc S2B is the same. Its BR is dictated by a weapon system it does not have stock. (I somehow managed to do the FA2 grind before it got AMRAAM stock as well)

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oh yeah i know but the guy said any plane, not just subsonic planes

also generally I prefer the aim9G over the aim9J (the more common at 11.0 missile), the longer range is worth the slightly less turning

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We need a total revamping of the stock loadouts, not only harriers. Everyone…

A-7D in 10.3BR with 2x 9E only were also brutal.
And what if Kurnass didn’t have SARH like 2K variant and extra 9D in T3/9G on T4 modification!

9J/P might be more lethal in closer range, but I also prefer 9D/G over 9J/P.
That was why I skipped the premium version of AV-8S because of it XD

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I mean I only really used the 6 aim9D/6aim9G on the kurnass when playing the thing

also doesnt the squadron shar get 2 aim9L stock?

and i feel like all a7s have a poor stock grind

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No.

After playing the A-7D, i think A-7s are just poor in general.

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I also think of using a 6x 9G only loadout on my Kurnass
But what I meant was stock grind of it
‘If Kurnass was unable to use the sparrow at all, so Gaijin was forcing everyone to use 2x 9D until unlocking more of them in Tier 3 modification (current 7E location)’

I can’t tell about nowadays because I played it when it was meta at 10.7, but in those days I could only use 2x 9G against the enemy at stock.

Truly. One of the worst cursed strike aircraft in War Thunder.
Not only bad in stock but also bad in fully upgraded (in ARB)
A-7E, AMX, and SHAR (Early) share the same 10.7BR but only A-7E can’t use 9L

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Yeah. I may start work on a discussion thread for at least British aircraft, that then might be expanded to others.

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You have lost rights to the talking stick

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