yeah well thats the part i definitely like about the changes, that using these 0 risk scout everything tactics will make it harder now to get into cas (cap also i think). So far i havent even played with that mechanic so if anything i can judge just by experience or what i think/am afraid it could mean, final verdict obviously only after really playing it for some time.
In the end, low tier is fun tier anyways so…
Imagine there’s a guy sitting safe inside the spawn, while he’s droning around, spams some arty strikes on defenseless SPAA trucks and then spawns into a KH-38 jet for just pressing the scout button here and there.
as silent tracker already said, it is much harder now to spawn in cas since the effectiveness of sp reduction modification is reduced by 50% when using a drone. u seem to have missed that part. combined with a increase of scouting cd to 18 seconds while before you could scout static targets through squad marker set by drone, scout squad marker every 6 seconds (with some getting used to even moving targets) with full sp reduction for cas in place. It does exactly the opposite of what youre saying. Except for direct scouting every 18 seconds from the scout drone. And yes, that could be a problem but we’ll have to play it for more than 4 hours to see and also it is most likely a starter for the snail to see if/how that works and what could be changed further.
also you wont be able to put arty on spaa trucks from your spawn. they are a: inside or close to their spawn most likely (where it is impossible to call arty to) while b: being too far to put arty anywhere close to it from your spawn anyways
I mean sure, in theory, but neither me or people i plqy with ever even though of doing that in more then every 20th match for 1 or 2 enemys.
And i play with people that are almost at the level that i am, and thats very very very high up the ladder.
So in theroy it could, in practice u dont use that, or atleast no one around my level, very frequently. We already have enough points by min 3 by just killing the enemy.
But i get the point, someone good but not pro could definitly profit alot from this, or even a bad player if he wants to fuck people up.
At the end, CAS is absurd crappy balanced and its super frustrating to get killed by it, as u cant do shit agaimst it unless u die first and respawn then in smt to counter it and then again respawn back to a tank if u have enough points.
Its really time to make CAS less computeraided at 20km and more skillbased again, and also more expensive. Every single bomb and missle should cost from dummy to fire and forget between 100 and 500 sp.
I.mean, the attscker drone cost hoe much? Why do player get a CAS that is cheaper with 4+ of the same missles on a better platform that can also reload? Its absurd.
Jea but only because smt is possible doesnt mean that u can do it ir that people do it.
I just say, from my pov, as a high skill level player, i dont see the point of doing that tbh.
Getting more points by just killing the enemy and increasing my winchange with that as well.
And for lower skill levle players it will be just another troll mechanic.
Before we talk about how good or bad this could be, we should get rid of one spawns.
Obviously it is kinda a nieche mechanic (depending on maps/map layout it can be more or less effective). Especially as you said youre playing with several other very good players then a simple squad marker is way more convenient, faster and enough for the players you are in direct comms with to know what and where to look out for.
Im exclusively playing alone so yeah, on certain maps it can make a massive difference having something scouted for your team that you got no chance to get line of sight to. If they care thats a completely different can of worms, though as you said, when youre a good player it is certainly not necessary to do well or to get in cas. It’s enough to just scout everything from behind cover through binos or just kill it if possible.
And attacker drone, yeah those are hilarious. first broken and annnoying af, perfect revengekill tool, now a good way to make people waste sp.
feel like this could hurt people who use these drone to set up indirect fire attacks such as the youtuber loner
? it wont make any difference in regard to that mechanic. which is good. its such a mostly uneffective/different way of using it so theres no need to change that. ppl that want to do that, can play like this, if youre sitting in a position anywhere and hear a couple of he rounds impacting near you, just move around a bit
Nah, he doesn’t rely on “Active Scouting”. Shouldn’t affect him at all. Only thing that changed with the UAV’s is the new scouting ability UAV’s can do themselves now, the cooldown of scouting once you have a UAV in the air, and the spawn points generated from getting the “Intelligence” awards if a teammate destroys a target you scouted.
After testing the scouting stuff for a while, its not a good change, should just revert it. 18s is way too long. Maybe 10s, but 18s is not a welcomed change.
I have been testing this new feature for few hours now.
At first I liked this feature, it is something new but it needs tweaking.
It is all about your team, I spent some rounds in my 8.3 bradley spotting the whole match, we won some and lost some battles because if the team uses the intel it is really a strong tool but if ignored… there is no help for such team. Even the rewards were surprisingly good for doing “nothing”.
But then more and more better players started playing on both sides. If you can use it well you can just steamroll your enemy. It brings another layer to the game which is nice.
It is a strong feature because people can spot without a line of sight. I know it is a nerf to the last iteration but it was not as frequent. Also there is a dangerous br of 8.3 if you are a toptier and have many light vehicles using drones against a team of 7.3s they are in a disadvantage. But further testing needs to be done.
Last battle I was in my M60A3 TTS and people were spotting for me on normandy. I was able to get 2 kills by just shooting at the mark which I rarely do. I got a kill in first minute on a leo 1 through a lot of foliage, the second kill was the same story.
It changes the battlefield and if it is here to stay we need to adapt and be more aware of the situation.
I had some fast steamrolls which I despise but on the other hand there were also some longer and more “tactical” battles too.
So if tweaked + better and mainly larger maps it will be a good tool for light tanks.
this feature is shit with the new UAV spotting, the op tactic is only half fixed(due to squadmates(in dc)) can abuse it regardless of balancing it. then you get disadvantage when you activate your drone and spot an enemy while you flank just bc they cant think of any other implementations which would give a player another nudge to play it like before but less broken… so I see only a badly emergency fix to a mechanic which was months ingame
maybe I should look for a complaint section bc I strongly hate how they implemented it, bc I was fine that this strat was too op
Yeah it changes the gameplay of ground RB, you have a lot more info on enemy locations which I am 50/50 on for now. I will need to play more. So for me it is as a whole 50/50 for now but it might be a negative for me too in the long run.
did you do the old spotting tactic with the drone?
I played like 3 matches in the IFV drone br and the frist game I played I got the penalty for the drone spot evene if I didnt use the drone a while ago, so I´m not 50/50.
I never did the old spotting tactic with the drone. I only used my drones in a squad to spot mainly for my friend.
probably the intended way(probably not intended to call 9m´s for the squadmate since they are visable on thermals), but somehow you cant get the better intel on the enemy ingame, just sad…
I get what you’re saying, but Gaijin’s history of listening to player feedback does not fill me with confidence.
Do UAVs have more than pixel-size hitbox now, when they have more utility?
Or even listening to bug reports hahahahahahha lol.