@Smin1080p_WT You said/showed previously that the TES slat armor will be removeable on the Mk.2, can we expect the ability to do so in the next major update or sooner?
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It’s gonna be almost a month since they said it will be removable…
something something, Britain suffers…
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With the next major update.
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Awesome, thanks for the update!
Will we also get the option to add and remove the extra amour on both Challenger Mk.3s, as well as changing the name of the Challenger DS to “OG,” which is short for Operation Granby?
Please don’t forget that the Challenger’s ready rack capacity also needs to be increased.
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[Gaijin Please] Add the Additional Armour Package to the Challenger DS
This would be such a simple thing to implement in the game, and there’s no reason why it couldn’t happen. Please. 🙏
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I’m currently not seeing anything on the dev server. Will this be added afterwards?
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The Slat armor modification is on the dev server, so you can uninstall the extra armor. However the “tea table” does not get removed with the modification.
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Just did some testing in regards to the acceleration of the Scimitar Mk.2 with and without the Slat armor. I tested by just holding forward on the runway on the map Cargo port. The Mk.1 I have fully aced Tank driving, while on the Mk.2, it is only expert crew. The Mk.1 also have a higher top speed of 87km/h compared to the 80km/h of the Mk.2.
| - | Mk.2 with armor | Mk.2 without armor | Mk.1 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2nd gear | 0,11s | 0,10s | 0,10s |
| 3rd gear | 0,26s | 0,23s | 0,26s |
| 4th gear | 1,08s | 1,05s | 1,08s |
| 5th gear | 2,22s | 2,14s | 2,19s |
| 6th gear | 8,08s | 7,09s | 7,19 |
| 7th gear | 15,07s | 13,06s | 13,15s |
| 80km/h | 59,06s | 45,14s | 36,11s |
The Mk.2 switches into 7th gear, when it is around a speed of 51km/h, while the Mk.1 switches into 7th gear with a speed of around 55km/h.
But generally, the acceleration of the Mk.1 vs Mk.2 is very similar until it switches into 7th gear.
With vs without slat armor is also reletively close until the 7th gear. With the one with slat being only 2 seconds slower. However as soon as you hit 7th gear it becomes very slow to accelerate.
| - | Mk.2 with armor | Mk.2 without armor | Mk.1 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10km/h | 0,25s | 0,26s | 0,23s |
| 20km/h | 2,13s | 2,05s | 2,04s |
| 30km/h | 5,14s | 4,26s | 4,13s |
| 40km/h | 9,05s | 8,05s | 7,02s |
| 50km/h | 14,13s | 12,16s | 11,03s |
| 60km/h | 28,00s | 22,22s | 17,27s |
| 70km/h | 42,05s | 33,08s | 26,27s |
| 80km/h | 59,06s | 45,14s | 36,11s |
| Top speed | 59,06s | 45,14s | 43,27s |
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Half the work done as usual.
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I was sitting here all excited, thinking it was the Challenger 2 TES because the bug report was accepted ages ago, but they forgot to add it. This is the Scimitar discussion so, fork found in the kitchen.
I guess I’ll have to create another post about it. They hate the challenger so much.
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The Challenger add-on armour is good for KFOR too.
Is the difference between the transmissions and engines well represented? The Scimitar Mk1 has a gasoline engine while the Mk2 is diesel, and they have different transmissions, with the Mk2’s being more modern.
The table is the worst thing too.
Blocks a load of vision and combined with the antenna gives your position away easily when trying to flank or hide turret down.
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@Smin1080p_WT the removal of the TES bar armour and weight from Scimitar 2 has made it much more viable.
What about the spoiler and ECM equipment? This equipment was installed for operations in Afghanistan due to the IED thread present in 2000s-2010s insurgency warfare, but was no longer seen on Scimitar Mk 2 when deployed on Operation CABRIT.
While the rear turret bin is not visible in the attached image, the ECM unit can be seen to be removed by virtue of the spoiler no longer being present. This is due to changes in operational requirements eg. the change from an irregular warfare environment to a conventional warfare environment, where speed and stealth are prioritised. It can be quite reliably assumed that the complete TES package has been removed, and the low-profile OTIS bin has been reinstalled on the rear of the turret.
Fig.1 The spoiler alone adds around 2-3 ft to the vehicle’s already increased height, making reconnaissance by stealth more difficult.
Fig.2 & 3 The two air vents and cabling leading to the antennae clearly mark this as an ECM unit, and not an air conditioning unit. Neither is it a radio, as it is housed externally.
More detail in @ScimitarsCurse’s Bug Report Scimitar Mk2 jammer/roll protection should be removable.
I appreciate that the gun limits were recently corrected, meaning that the vehicle is still getting some attention.
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Currently its not planned, but as you linked already, there is an open suggestion for it. So it will depend on the developers evaluation of that.
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Appreciate the reply, I do hope that it will be strongly considered as at present the Scimitar 2 is still half-dressed.
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I would appreciate losing the tea table to that the light scout tank can be light and scout without a giant “artillery here plz” sign
If I had to guess the air conditioning unit would be part of a revision to the NBC unit or an addition to it, which will be located within the vehicles hull. There’s more than enough space within a Spartan hull alongside the RARDEN 30mm turret to house a rather large unit. Would be very unusual to mount it to the rear of the turret.
Will know later this year when we get our hands on one
Yeah integrating A/C and NBC is very typical for AFVs (example; the one I work on atm), though there are always outliers where the A/C is just bolted on somewhere, such as on Warrior TES(H).
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